ARC tbc.....................Susannah Allcock/Unknown

[Pudsey to Howard]

Greeting true believers

It's been a while but rest assured I'm still ferreting out information about my black country connections.

I've recently been in touch with someone who's been able to add some buds to my family tree in regard to Susannah Allcock:


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ock-Family

After the death of her first husband, George Roberts [Proberts], Susannah remarried. Her second husband was William Cotterill. The lady who provided me this information has the marriage certificate to confirm the details. This information, therefore, links Susannah to the following:

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... own-Family

Hope this helps someone else.

Doug

[peterd]

COTTRILL William PROBERT Susannah 1859 West Bromwich, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 25/1/406

[Northern Lass]

thanks doug

do you have the details you can post and I will connect the 2 up

[Northern Lass]

do we have the death for george too pls anyone

[Northern Lass]

doug do you have both marriages save us looking them up
that you could post please

1st Marriage 1852 ALLCOCK Susanna ROBERTS George West Bromwich, All Saints Sandwell Register Office 22/5/453

2nd marriage....COTTRILL William PROBERT Susannah 1859 West Bromwich, Holy Trinity West Midlands Sandwell Register Office 25/1/406

[Pudsey to Howard]

Hi

I'll get in touch with my contact and ask her if she'd like to provide details.

[Northern Lass]

Hi

I'll get in touch with my contact and ask her if she'd like to provide details.

Ok Doug

do you have those marriages you can post pls
I think you have something with what you have said...copying here so we can check and I will
amend Bcc


"First up a marriage certificate that shows that in 1852 Susannah married George Proberts, a puddler, at All Saints Church, West Bromwich. Both the bride & groom sign with an X.

Next in 1859 Susannah, a widow, marries William Cottrill, a miner, at Trinity Church, West Bromwich. [
the certificate is a poor copy and her name is difficult to read "“ it could be Proberts or Roberts.]

There is some confusion in regards to George's surname Proberts/Roberts - it's probably neither of these but in fact Proverbs - the IGI has a baptism record for a George Proverbs at St Leonards Bilston on the 20/11/1831.

Also the IGI has baptisms at ALL SAINTS,"‹WEST BROMWICH,"‹STAFFORD,"‹ENGLAND for the children of George & Susannah Proverbs -John Henry Proverbs [09 Sep 1855] & Mary Ann [19 Mar 1854]. Given that there are a John Henry [born circa1855] & a Mary Ann [born circa1853] Cotterill living at Stoney Lane, West Bromwich with Susannah & William in 1861 and the fact that William is born circa 1840, therefore too young to be their father I reckon there's a strong case for the Proverbs theory."


can we find any births pls for the above kids

[Northern Lass]

can we find a death for George Probert/ to see what he is regis as.

and any census for this lot pls

is he Proverb or Probert?

[Northern Lass]

GEORGE PROVERBS
Christening: 20 NOV 1831 Bilston, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: JOHN PROVERBS
Mother: ELIZABETH Extracted

[Northern Lass]

JOHN HENRY PROVERBS
Christening: 09 SEP 1855 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: GEORGE PROVERBS
Mother: SUSANNAH Extracted birth


MARY ANN PROVERBS
Christening: 19 MAR 1854 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: GEORGE PROVERBS
Mother: SUSANNA Extracted

this looks good

and then on census

1861: Stoney Lane
William Cotterill 21 Miner
Susannah Cotterill 27
Mary Ann Proverbs? Cotterill 8
John Henry Cotterill 6
Isiah Cotterill 2

1871: Stoney Lane, West Bromwich
(Cottrell on image)
William Cattrell 30 Head Miner M
Susannah Cattrell 36 Wife Bilston
John Cattrell 16 Son Miner
Isiah Cattrell 11 Son
Alice Cattrell 9 Dau
William Cattrell 5 Son
Agnes Cattrell 3 Dau
Claria Cattrell 6 Months Dau
(others born West Bromwich)

Next door is Thomas (60) and Hannah (54) Cottrell

[Northern Lass]

Looks good for Proverbs so will amend

Births Mar 1854
Proverbs Mary Ann W. Bromwich 6b 604

Births Dec 1854
Proverbs John Henry W. Bromwich 6b 539

[Pudsey to Howard]

Hi

There is a death for a George Proverbs in 1855: PROVERBS George - Harborne - Sandwell Register Office - HAR/7/348

Doug

[Northern Lass]

added that in as a possible looks bout right.

[Northern Lass]

flagging to archive this if all done