Lucy Homer & William Webb ARC TBC?
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- MarkCDodd
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
I can't find any Morris/Webb marriages that fit.
I can't find any Morris/Skidmore marriages that fit.
I can't find any Prescilla Morris baptisms in Staffordshire although there is an excellent one in Diddlebury, Shropshire which is 40 miles away from Tipton/Dudley.
I believe in one or two coincidences but the whole thing panns out too well with the Wilkes connection, Benjamin Skidmore having Joseph and Zillah for his parents and his birth date etc.
I can't find any Morris/Skidmore marriages that fit.
I can't find any Prescilla Morris baptisms in Staffordshire although there is an excellent one in Diddlebury, Shropshire which is 40 miles away from Tipton/Dudley.
I believe in one or two coincidences but the whole thing panns out too well with the Wilkes connection, Benjamin Skidmore having Joseph and Zillah for his parents and his birth date etc.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
So we need this marriage
1856. SKIDMORE Benjamin. HODGKINS Betsey. West Bromwich, All Saints. Sandwell Register Office. 22/7/365.
to see who he puts as father
Not sure what you mean Mark...who do you thing father is for Benjamin?
we have on bapt father Benjamin Skidmore
BENJAMIN SKIDMORE Christening: 17 FEB 1833 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN SKIDMORE
Mother: ZELLAH Extracted birth
1856. SKIDMORE Benjamin. HODGKINS Betsey. West Bromwich, All Saints. Sandwell Register Office. 22/7/365.
to see who he puts as father
Not sure what you mean Mark...who do you thing father is for Benjamin?
we have on bapt father Benjamin Skidmore
BENJAMIN SKIDMORE Christening: 17 FEB 1833 Saint Bartholomew, Wednesbury, Stafford,
Parents:
Father: BENJAMIN SKIDMORE
Mother: ZELLAH Extracted birth
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
I wonder if Phoebe marriage to Thomas Wilkes helps with witnesses and check father as Joseph?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
WILKES Thomas WEBB Phebe Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/016/489
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
WILKES Thomas WEBB Phebe Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/016/489
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Just odd we have that bapt with father Benjamin
hopefully someone can look it up at sandwell soon
hopefully someone can look it up at sandwell soon

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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Coincidences...
1) We have a Benjamin Skidmore born to a Benjamin and Zillah Baptised in Wednesbury in Feb 1833.
2) Benjamin, husband of Zillah, dies in Tipton in August 1832.
3) We have a Zillah Skidmore marrying Joseph Webb in Dudley in September 1834.
4) We have the 1851 census showing a Benjamin Webb, son of Zilla, born abt 1833 in Wednesbury.
5) We have the 1841 census showing a Benjamin Web, born abt 1833, Living with Joseph and Zillah in Tipton.
6) In 1861 Zillah is living in a house with a Rosannah Wilkes (Zillah would be her grandmother). A Rosannah Wilkes is one of the Witnesses to Lucy Homer and William Webbs marriage.
This is why I love he Australian records including both parents names, including maiden names, in the records.
Some states even put down the relationship of the witnesses.
1) We have a Benjamin Skidmore born to a Benjamin and Zillah Baptised in Wednesbury in Feb 1833.
2) Benjamin, husband of Zillah, dies in Tipton in August 1832.
3) We have a Zillah Skidmore marrying Joseph Webb in Dudley in September 1834.
4) We have the 1851 census showing a Benjamin Webb, son of Zilla, born abt 1833 in Wednesbury.
5) We have the 1841 census showing a Benjamin Web, born abt 1833, Living with Joseph and Zillah in Tipton.
6) In 1861 Zillah is living in a house with a Rosannah Wilkes (Zillah would be her grandmother). A Rosannah Wilkes is one of the Witnesses to Lucy Homer and William Webbs marriage.
This is why I love he Australian records including both parents names, including maiden names, in the records.
Some states even put down the relationship of the witnesses.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Have you got that marriage Mark for Benjamin Skidmore and Betsy
1856. SKIDMORE Benjamin. HODGKINS Betsey. West Bromwich, All Saints. Sandwell Register Office. 22/7/365.
1856. SKIDMORE Benjamin. HODGKINS Betsey. West Bromwich, All Saints. Sandwell Register Office. 22/7/365.
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Sorry, no more info on that marriage....
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Ok well let's move this to archived as a sticky pending a look up on that marriage
at least we have Zilla/Priscillas name now
flagging to archive pending look up on marriage for Benjamin and Betsy
OR we can move to Brickwalls if you need more on Lucy and William
at least we have Zilla/Priscillas name now
flagging to archive pending look up on marriage for Benjamin and Betsy
OR we can move to Brickwalls if you need more on Lucy and William
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Re: ARC PENDING LK UP ....Lucy Homer & William Webb
Still have no idea of Lucy and William post 1881.
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
1841. Dudley Port, Tipton
Joseph Homer, 35, Not born County
Ann, 35, Not born County
Zachariah, 15,
Joseph, 13,
Mary, 9,
Hannah, 6,
Rachel, 4,
Thomas, 1,
All others born in County
1851. Phenix Street, West Bromwich
Zachariah Homer, 26, Pudler, Tipton
Ann, wife, 28, Bilston
Sarah A, daur, 6,
Zachariah, son, 1
All others born West bromwich
Transcribed as Homes is hard to read
1861. Great Bridge Road, West Bromwich
Zachariah Homer, head, 35, Pudler, Tipton
Ann, wife, 36, Bilston
Sarah Ann, daur, 15,
Zachariah, son, 11, errand boy
John, son, 9,
Samuel, son, 7,
Lucy, daur, 5,
Isaiah, son, 3,
James, son, 1
All others born West Bromwich
1871. Great Bridge Road, West bromwich
Zachariah Homer, head, 47, Pudler of iron
Ann, wife, 45, Bilston
Samuel, son, 17, ? pudler
Isaiah, son, 13, works in forge
James, son, 11
John T Baker, Boarder, 17, ? pudler
All others born West Bromwich
? Lucy?
1871. Great Bridge Road, West Bromwich
Hannah Morgan, head, W, 59, Kings Arms Beer House Keeper,
Elizabeth Morgan, niece, 25,
Catherine Pratt, serv, 33,
Lucy Homer, visitor, 15, West Bromwich
All others born Tipton
Joseph Homer, 35, Not born County
Ann, 35, Not born County
Zachariah, 15,
Joseph, 13,
Mary, 9,
Hannah, 6,
Rachel, 4,
Thomas, 1,
All others born in County
1851. Phenix Street, West Bromwich
Zachariah Homer, 26, Pudler, Tipton
Ann, wife, 28, Bilston
Sarah A, daur, 6,
Zachariah, son, 1
All others born West bromwich
Transcribed as Homes is hard to read
1861. Great Bridge Road, West Bromwich
Zachariah Homer, head, 35, Pudler, Tipton
Ann, wife, 36, Bilston
Sarah Ann, daur, 15,
Zachariah, son, 11, errand boy
John, son, 9,
Samuel, son, 7,
Lucy, daur, 5,
Isaiah, son, 3,
James, son, 1
All others born West Bromwich
1871. Great Bridge Road, West bromwich
Zachariah Homer, head, 47, Pudler of iron
Ann, wife, 45, Bilston
Samuel, son, 17, ? pudler
Isaiah, son, 13, works in forge
James, son, 11
John T Baker, Boarder, 17, ? pudler
All others born West Bromwich
? Lucy?
1871. Great Bridge Road, West Bromwich
Hannah Morgan, head, W, 59, Kings Arms Beer House Keeper,
Elizabeth Morgan, niece, 25,
Catherine Pratt, serv, 33,
Lucy Homer, visitor, 15, West Bromwich
All others born Tipton
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Yes, all those are my Homer family prior to 1881, and at the beggining of the thread I posted the married Lucy with parents in 1881. No sign of her hubby in 1881 or either of them after 1881.
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Re: Lucy Homer & William Webb
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?
Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to the Brickwalls Archived section
within 24 hours
Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to the Brickwalls Archived section
within 24 hours
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Re: ARC TBC - Lucy Homer & William Webb
Still abrick wall. I beleive the marraige was in the looku queue.
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Re: ARC TBC - Lucy Homer & William Webb
Poss
1901
13 Park Avenue, Smethwick
William Webb 44 - Labourer tubeworks?
Lucy Webb 43
Joseph Webb 20 - Labourer tubeworks
all b Smethwick
1901
13 Park Avenue, Smethwick
William Webb 44 - Labourer tubeworks?
Lucy Webb 43
Joseph Webb 20 - Labourer tubeworks
all b Smethwick
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Re: ARC TBC - Lucy Homer & William Webb
Thanks for letting me know.
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