*Look up done*Jael Mole b abt 1817

[Northern Lass]

Ok who is she?

Who are her parents?

Can we link her to the other Moles on BCC

[peterd]

could look up the marriage ?

JAEL MOLE
JOHN STURMAN
Marriage: 15 OCT 1837 Clent, Worcester,

[peterd]

wonder if this could be jael ?

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... d=14604121

[FarSide]

No parents.. off on a tanget tho..
1841
Eoleus? Row, Hill (Gorsty Hill next page)
John Sturman 25 - Ag Lab - n b in c
Joel Sturman 25
Thomas Sturman 2
Willm Sturman 1
others b in c

1851
87
Colliers Row, The Hill
John Surman 40 - Ag labourer - b Northamptonshire, Crick
Jeal Surman 33 - Nailor
Thomas Surman 12 - Potts labourer
William Surman 11 - Nailor
John Surman 9
Edward Sturman 7
Henry Sturman 3
Charles Sturman 1
others b The Hill

1861
111
Colliers Row, Hill
John Sturman 50 - Labourer - b Northamptonshire Crick
Joel Sturman 44 - Nailor
Wm Sturman 21 - Labourer
John Sturman 19 - Labourer
Edward Sturman 17 - Labourer
Henry Sturman 14 - Nailor
Charles Sturman 11 - Nailor
Samuel Sturman 7
others b Halesowen

Don't see them on the 71

1881
174
Long lane, Hill
John Sturman 70 - Corndealer - b Northamptonshire Crick
Jael Sturman 63
John E. Sturman 13 - grandson - Errand boy
others b Halesowen

Next door
173
Charles Sturman 31 - Corndealer
Mary A. Sturman 32 - b Rowley
Thomas Sturman 9
Miriam Sturman 7
Elizabeth Sturman 5
Frank T. Sturman 2
Albert Sturman 2 months
others b Halesowen

Poss marriage
Marriages Sep 1871
STURMAN Charles Stourbridge 6c 277
Whitehouse Mary Stourbridge 6c 277

son Thomas
1871
133
Tay? Fry? Ivy? Cottage, Rowley
Thomas Sturma 32 - Labourer - Halesowen
Ellen Sturma 32
Mary Sturma 7
Henry Sturma 4
Alice Sturma 1
others b Rowley

1881
145
37 Hackett Street, Rowley
Thomas Sturman 42 - Labourer in coal mine - b Halesowen
Helaner Sturman 42
Mary J. Sturman 17
Alice Sturman 11
Frank Sturman 8
others b Rowley

next door
son samuel
144
Samuel Sturman 27 - Milk cow keeper - b Halesowen
Annie H. Sturman 29
Walter P. Sturman 2
others b Rowley

[FarSide]

Marriages Dec 1837
STURMAN John Bromsgrove 18 299
MOLE Jael Bromsgrove 18 299

[grangers14]

1871 is on BCC

1871: RG10 Piece 3020 Folio 35 Page 31
Transcribed as Stewman
Long Lane
John Sturman, head, 60, corn dealer, Crick, Northamptonshire
Jael, wife, 53 John, son, 29, Labourer
Charles, son, 21, shade (?) Moulder
Samuel, son, 17, nail forger
next door
Henry Sturman, head, 23,labourer
Mary, wife, 21, Cradley Heath
John, son, 3
Henry, son, 1


Jo

[Northern Lass]

Ok then.....

So who is gonna enter all that Sturman stuff...don't all rush at once
Just any that aren't already on would be so helpful

So we still don't have Jaels parents.....
the marriage at Clent although I have the book it only goes up to 1837 2nd July!

But that baptism looks interesting Pete
wonder if a Jane Mole marries anyone?

[Northern Lass]

I think that Jane Mole could be Jael Mole b abt 1817/1818

On the 1861 census John Sturman and Jael are living next door to a Samuel Holloway age 66 and wife Phebe age 68
he is a nailer b Worcs Hasbury- she is b Beech lane Kidsgrove

now is this an uncle....bro to Maria her mother....Maria Holloway

[Northern Lass]

there is this one

could be Maria.... with a brother Samuel?
MIRIA HOLLAWAY Pedigree
Female
Birth: 17 JAN 1794

Christening: 22 JUL 1798 Saint Kenelms, Romsley, Worcester,

Father: BENJAMIN HOLLAWAY

Extracted

So I am thinking if I can connect Samuel Holloway b abt 1795 Worcs area to Maria as a sib
then that is why a Jael Sturman is living next door to him on 1861
and that would mean Jael Mole is indeed Jane Mole
one and the same

wot we think

[FarSide]

I'll put it on BCC

[linell]

Hi NL, think we should look carefully at the Mole/Holloway connection. There was a Male family in Hayley Green, at least as far back as 1830, and they lived next door to the Holloways. Just wondered if at some point, Male became Mole?? Linell.

[Northern Lass]

I'll put it on BCC

Thanks FS

[Northern Lass]

Hi NL, think we should look carefully at the Mole/Holloway connection. There was a Male family in Hayley Green, at least as far back as 1830, and they lived next door to the Holloways. Just wondered if at some point, Male became Mole?? Linell.

You could well be right Linell
I think I might send for the marriage on this one....I am sure that they are the same person
and that father is John and mother Maria Holloway
and so on the 1861 Jael is living near family

hmmm bottle of wine or marriage cert......tricky decision

[mallosa]

In that case, I guess we'll never know then!

[Judoroy]

Just to let you know I'm going to Worcester archives tomorrow and will be looking up the marriage cert on Jael hopefully fathers names will be recorded. I have loads of certs to get on my ancestors from Droitwich & Kidderminster
Judoroy