Somers and Wilmot Family
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Somers and Wilmot Family
Just Added all details of Walters Somers whose family owned Walter Somers Forgemasters in Halesowen when I noted one of his daughters Alice married into a well known Jewellers who owned Wilmot Manufacturing who were famous for EDW silvermark.
John Paul Wilmot married Alice Somers in 1901 but he was a widow living in Bellevue House Mucklows Hill Halesowen in 1911 which had previously been residence of Walter Somers.
John Paul Wilmot is buried in Halesowen Cemetary aged 83 in 1955 but I think he married again in 1917 to a Marjorie Williams
The Wilmot family is interesting and connects several times to Black Country so I have added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =161055637
Edward Wilmot grandfather of John Paul is quite a character as he appears to have had 20 children by 3 sisters who he married between 1837 and 1859
I am looking for help tracing these marriages as it is not clear where or when he married.
Also would like to trace Marjorie Williams
John Paul Wilmot married Alice Somers in 1901 but he was a widow living in Bellevue House Mucklows Hill Halesowen in 1911 which had previously been residence of Walter Somers.
John Paul Wilmot is buried in Halesowen Cemetary aged 83 in 1955 but I think he married again in 1917 to a Marjorie Williams
The Wilmot family is interesting and connects several times to Black Country so I have added
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =161055637
Edward Wilmot grandfather of John Paul is quite a character as he appears to have had 20 children by 3 sisters who he married between 1837 and 1859
I am looking for help tracing these marriages as it is not clear where or when he married.
Also would like to trace Marjorie Williams
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Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
I can't see any marriages but found this,
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941,
WILMOT Edward Dinwoody. 6 March. The Will with two Codicils of Edward Dinwoody Wilmot formerly of Lea Hall Handsworth but late of Ashley House Handsworth in the County of Stafford. Wholesale Jeweller who died 14 October 1884 at Ashley House was proved as Lichfield by John Edward Wilmot of Hylton Street Birmingham in the County of Warwick, Jeweller's Factor the son of William Johnson of Watlerloo Street Birmingham Solicitor William Henry Ryland of St. Augustine's Road Edgbaston Birmingham Merchant and Charles Augustus Harrison of Waterloo Street Chartered Accountant the Executor.
Personal Estate £27,070. 7s. 1d.
England & Wales, National Probate Calendar (Index of Wills and Administrations), 1861-1941,
WILMOT Edward Dinwoody. 6 March. The Will with two Codicils of Edward Dinwoody Wilmot formerly of Lea Hall Handsworth but late of Ashley House Handsworth in the County of Stafford. Wholesale Jeweller who died 14 October 1884 at Ashley House was proved as Lichfield by John Edward Wilmot of Hylton Street Birmingham in the County of Warwick, Jeweller's Factor the son of William Johnson of Watlerloo Street Birmingham Solicitor William Henry Ryland of St. Augustine's Road Edgbaston Birmingham Merchant and Charles Augustus Harrison of Waterloo Street Chartered Accountant the Executor.
Personal Estate £27,070. 7s. 1d.
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Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
Possibly too young these two.
1901. Ivy Cottage, Kings Norton.
Sidney Williams 25. Hardware merchant.
May Williams 25. Croydon, Surrey.
Marjorie Williams 1. Dau.
Florence Shaw 20. Serv.
Others born Birmingham.
1901. Nichols Rectory, Landsdowne Crescent, Worcester.
George F Williams 44. Clergman, Church of England. Heath Town, Staffs.
Beatrice L Williams 38. London, Burton, Middlesex.
Irene B G Williams 10. Dau. Launceston; Southport.
Kathleon E B G Williams 8. Dau. Launceston; Southport.
Cecile M C Williams 7. Dau. Worcester.
Marjorie J Williams 2. Dau. Worcester.
Mary Lloyd 28. Mothers help. Stafford, Staffordshire.
1901. Ivy Cottage, Kings Norton.
Sidney Williams 25. Hardware merchant.
May Williams 25. Croydon, Surrey.
Marjorie Williams 1. Dau.
Florence Shaw 20. Serv.
Others born Birmingham.
1901. Nichols Rectory, Landsdowne Crescent, Worcester.
George F Williams 44. Clergman, Church of England. Heath Town, Staffs.
Beatrice L Williams 38. London, Burton, Middlesex.
Irene B G Williams 10. Dau. Launceston; Southport.
Kathleon E B G Williams 8. Dau. Launceston; Southport.
Cecile M C Williams 7. Dau. Worcester.
Marjorie J Williams 2. Dau. Worcester.
Mary Lloyd 28. Mothers help. Stafford, Staffordshire.
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
Thanks Jimmy
Found on Ancestry
1) Phoebe C. Freeman married Edward Wilmot St Verries Neuchatel Switzerland on 6/6/1859
or 10/5/1859 Piemonte Italy
2) Sarah Barnes Freeman married Edward Wilmot 2/3/1837 St. Andrews Norwich or Chepstow Gloucestershire 1837 Notary
3) Felicia Catherine Freeman married Edward Wilmot 30/10/1854 Dinsbey on the Rhine ( Felicia died 4/12/1858)
Found on Ancestry
1) Phoebe C. Freeman married Edward Wilmot St Verries Neuchatel Switzerland on 6/6/1859
or 10/5/1859 Piemonte Italy
2) Sarah Barnes Freeman married Edward Wilmot 2/3/1837 St. Andrews Norwich or Chepstow Gloucestershire 1837 Notary
3) Felicia Catherine Freeman married Edward Wilmot 30/10/1854 Dinsbey on the Rhine ( Felicia died 4/12/1858)
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Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
mumbles wrote:Thanks Jimmy
Found on Ancestry
1) Phoebe C. Freeman married Edward Wilmot St Verries Neuchatel Switzerland on 6/6/1859
or 10/5/1859 Piemonte Italy
2) Sarah Barnes Freeman married Edward Wilmot 2/3/1837 St. Andrews Norwich or Chepstow Gloucestershire 1837 Notary
3) Felicia Catherine Freeman married Edward Wilmot 30/10/1854 Dinsbey on the Rhine ( Felicia died 4/12/1858)
He got around a bit.
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Pallot's Baptism Index for England: 1780 - 1837.
Name: Felicia Catherine Freeman.
Baptism Date: 1828.
Parent 1: William Freeman.
Parent 2: Elizabeth Freeman.
Parish: Norwich.
County: St. Andrew, Norfolk.
Name: Felicia Catherine Freeman.
Baptism Date: 1828.
Parent 1: William Freeman.
Parent 2: Elizabeth Freeman.
Parish: Norwich.
County: St. Andrew, Norfolk.
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
1841 Census Heigham Villa West Wymer Norwich Norfolk
William Freeman 55 Furniture M.
Elizabeth Freeman 50 not born in county
Anne Freeman 20
Alfred Freeman 19
David Freeman 18
Phoebe Freeman 15
Felicia Freeman 13
Ellen Freeman 8
Mary Daws 23
Elizabeth Cooper 21
rest born in county
1851 Census Heigham Gardens West Wymer Norwich Norfolk
William Freeman Head 66 (wid) Formerly Lawyer and Guild Upholder and Magistrate for City born London
David G. Freeman son 29 Auctioneer and Valuer born Norwich Norfolk
Phoebe Charlotte Freeman dau 25 born Norwich Norfolk
Felicia Catherine Freeman dau 23 born Norwich Norfolk
Ernest Ackerman grd.child 3 born London
Anne Thompson servant 21 House Servant born Essex
Charlotte Elby servant 36 born Thurston Norfolk
Charlotte Brock 53 Cook born Little Dunham Norfolk
William Freeman 55 Furniture M.
Elizabeth Freeman 50 not born in county
Anne Freeman 20
Alfred Freeman 19
David Freeman 18
Phoebe Freeman 15
Felicia Freeman 13
Ellen Freeman 8
Mary Daws 23
Elizabeth Cooper 21
rest born in county
1851 Census Heigham Gardens West Wymer Norwich Norfolk
William Freeman Head 66 (wid) Formerly Lawyer and Guild Upholder and Magistrate for City born London
David G. Freeman son 29 Auctioneer and Valuer born Norwich Norfolk
Phoebe Charlotte Freeman dau 25 born Norwich Norfolk
Felicia Catherine Freeman dau 23 born Norwich Norfolk
Ernest Ackerman grd.child 3 born London
Anne Thompson servant 21 House Servant born Essex
Charlotte Elby servant 36 born Thurston Norfolk
Charlotte Brock 53 Cook born Little Dunham Norfolk
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
WILMOT John P WILLIAMS Marjorie Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/009/420
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
I will post marriage for look up
The Belle Vue House has been discussed before and I remember as the MEB building at the top of Muclows Hill
The Belle Vue House has been discussed before and I remember as the MEB building at the top of Muclows Hill
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
Looked up and ties up:-
14/6/1917 Halesowen St. John John Paul Wilmot 45 widower Silversmith of Belle Vue Halesowen father John Edward Wilmot Silversmith dec.
Marjorie Williams spinster 25 of Witley Lodge Halesowen father James Williams Manager
Witnesses James Williams Walter H. Maike and Annie Hale ? Williams
14/6/1917 Halesowen St. John John Paul Wilmot 45 widower Silversmith of Belle Vue Halesowen father John Edward Wilmot Silversmith dec.
Marjorie Williams spinster 25 of Witley Lodge Halesowen father James Williams Manager
Witnesses James Williams Walter H. Maike and Annie Hale ? Williams
Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
Have not found Marjorie and father James Williams yet but her address is Witley Lodge which in 1845 was home of David Homfray and Jeston Homfray ancestors of Kathleen Homfray who married Frank Somers so must be a connection there
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West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1891.
WILLIAMS Marjorie. Kingswinford. Dudley Register. Office. KIN/146/359.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1894.
WILLIAMS Marjorie. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/155/171.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1903.
WILLIAMS Marjorie N. Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/078/405
WILLIAMS Marjorie. Kingswinford. Dudley Register. Office. KIN/146/359.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1894.
WILLIAMS Marjorie. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/155/171.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1903.
WILLIAMS Marjorie N. Halesowen Dudley Register Office HAL/078/405
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Re: Somers and Wilmot Family
Are you still looking for info on this thread Mumbles?
or can it be archived or moved to Brickwalls?
or can it be archived or moved to Brickwalls?