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carolina · Post by **carolina** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:06 am

Has anyone come across the family of Robert and Elizabeth Evans (Kingswinford and Cradley)in their research? Am trying to trace Emma chr 4 Sept 1837 Brierley Hill (marriage to William Onions 1861) - was hoping a census record might lead me to the rest of the family but not succeeded so far with 1841. I think Robert died in 1838 - so where were the others after this.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:21 am

Do you have Emma and William in later census's after marriage, what was Roberts occupation.

carolina · Post by **carolina** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 10:59 am

Hi there

Have Robert Evans on marriage of daughter Elizabeth in Nov 1848 as Millman and deceased. Emma is a recent find and was hoping that, as probably the youngest, she would be the clue to where the mother and family were in 1841 and 1851. Have been looking for siblings called Martha, Thomas, Robert, Elizabeth.

Struggling as census providers seem to have different records for Emmas.

Onions family there on 1881 at 1 Bedford Street Tipton.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:13 am

It looks like Emmas mother remarried, do you know when.

1881.
William ONIONS Head M Male 42 Tipton, Stafford, England Iron Master (Out Of Business)
Emma ONIONS Wife M Female 43 Brierley Hill, Worcester, England
Ann ONIONS Daur U Female 18 Tipton, Stafford, England
George ONIONS Son Male 16 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Elizabeth ONIONS Daur Female 15 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Mary ONIONS Daur Female 14 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Hannah ONIONS Daur Female 4 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
William ONIONS Son Male 9 Handworth, Stafford, England Scholar
Frank ONIONS Son Male 6 Tipton, Stafford, England Scholar
Emma ONIONS Daur Female 3 Tipton, Stafford, England
Harry ONIONS Son Male 1 Tipton, Stafford, England

1 Bedford St.Tipton, Stafford.

1871. Handsworth.
William Onions 31. Iron master.
Emma Onions 33. Brierley Hill.
Ann Onions 8.
George Onions 6
Elizabeth Onions 5.
Mary Onions 4.
Hannah Onions 1.
Elizabeth Harris 74. Mother-in-Law. Formerly laundress. Bewdley.
Hannah Smith 19. Servantm

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:15 am

If this is the right one Emma may be under the name Harris in 1841.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1839.
EVANS Elizabeth. HARRIS William. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/002/370.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:23 am

1851. Lower Green, Tipton.
William Harris 44. Blacksmith. Tipton.
Elizabeth Harris 53. Cleobury, Shropshire.
Mary Harris 10. Dau. Tipton.
Thomas Evans 23. Son. Blacksmith. Cradley.
Robert Evans 17. Son. Puddler. Cradley.
Emma Evans 13. Dau. Blacksmiths dau. Brieley Hill.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:26 am

Same family no Emma,
1841. Upper Green? Tipton.
Wm Harris 30. Blacksmith.
Elizebeth Harris 40.
Thos Evers 13.
Elizebeth Evers 8.
Robert Evers 4.
Mary Harris 8 MO.
Joseph Harris 17.

Northern Lass · Post by **Northern Lass** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:29 am

who does emma put on marriage to Wm onions?
do you have the marriage
1861
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ONIONS William EVANS Emma Dudley, St James Dudley Register Office 202/003/138

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:34 am

It could be that Emma was missed of the 1841 census, or staying with relations.

1861. Lock Side, Tipton.
William Harris 54.
Elizabeth Harris 63. Clibory, Worcestershire.
Emma Evan Harris 23.
Mary Harris 20.
William Onwus 21.
John Whitehouse 20.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:37 am

William Onions Or Unions.
Groom's Birth Date: 1839.
Groom's Age: 22.
Bride's Name: Emma Evans.
Bride's Birth Date: 1837.
Bride's Age: 24.
Marriage Date: 19 May 1861.
Marriage Place: St. James Church Parish, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: George Onions.
Bride's Father's Name: Robert Evans.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
ndexing Project (Batch) Number: M00978-6.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1470599.
Reference Number: Item 1 p69 #138.

carolina · Post by **carolina** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 11:47 am

This is just brilliant! Really excited as it is the first breakthrough with the Evans family in ages.

I spotted Emma's christening recently and then that her father was Robert on the marriage - and realised that there was a youngest member of the family. I kept believing I'd find Emma and her mother but was looking for the earlier records. Should have thought about a remarriage too.

Looks like Robert 1838 deceased is the right one and I now have a lead on wife Elizabeth back to Bewdley.

Can't believe that Emma did hold the clue to them after all.

Many many thanks

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 1:46 pm

Jimmy wrote:If this is the right one Emma may be under the name Harris in 1841.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1839.
EVANS Elizabeth. HARRIS William. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/002/370.

To be certain this marriage would need checking out.
William Harris.
Bride's Name: Elizabeth Evans.
Marriage Date: 19 Aug 1839.
Marriage Place: St. Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Groom's Father's Name: Thomas Harris.
Bride's Father's Name: Thomas Taff.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Bride's Marital Status: Widowed.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01874-5.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 350620.
Reference Number: Pg 185 No 370.

Jimmy · Post by **Jimmy** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:15 pm

Jimmy wrote:It could be that Emma was missed of the 1841 census, or staying with relations.

1861. Lock Side, Tipton.
William Harris 54.
Elizabeth Harris 63. Clibory, Worcestershire.
Emma Evan Harris 23.
Mary Harris 20.
William Onwus 21. looks like Onions on image. Lodger.
John Whitehouse 20.

Just noticed, William Onions.

linell · Post by **linell** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 2:28 pm

I found these Evans baptism's in the Cradley Register:-

12.5.1833 Robert son of Robert and Elizabeth Rowley Regis Millman
10.1.1830 Elizabeth da of Robert and Elizabeth Rowley Regis Forgeman
23.12.1827 Thomas son of Robert and Elizabeth Rowley Regis Forgeman

I can't find the family living in Cradley, to me it looks like they lived in probably Cradley Heath Rowley Regis and worshipped at St Peter's Church. Robert Snr probably worked at Cradley Forge, there was a Forge there on the River Stour. Do you know how he died, was it an accident :?:

Linell.

carolina · Post by **carolina** » Thu Oct 06, 2011 5:41 pm

Elizabeth jnr later gives birthplace as Corngreaves so that fits. Two siblings were christened in Brierley Hill, and the others in Cradley. Will be sending for certificate to find out what happened to Robert.

The Harris family Lockside Tipton address is next door to the married daughter Elizabeth Griffiths too.

Today's efforts from everyone have moved this from 1823 back to the 1760s with leads now in Cleobury, Rock, Kinlet and Bewdley. I am very interested in family migration routes into the area! Fascinating stuff.

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