"completed" Ernest E. GREAVES photo- 1880s?..school photo?

[expat66]

I'd say this is him.. there's Tin makers on the page
1901
22 Shrubbies, Birmingham
Tom Baker 42 - Steel pen toolmaker - b Sheffield
Sarah Baker 36
Tom Baker 10
William Baker 7
Ellen G Baker 1
others b Birmingham

Is there anything else on the back of the photo?

Thanks again FarSide ... so we could be looking at a group photo of tinworkers?

I will check on whether there is anything else on the back of the photo.

Also came across this on the internet ...
it seems that workers deemed essential for war work were given a badge which exempted them from call up... an 'on war service' war workers badge 1915-1918. The example I found on the internet did look alot like the badges these men are wearing. If they were metal workers I suppose they may well have been manufacturing goods deemed essential for the war effort?

( tried to put on a link to a photo I found on the internet.. but my computer is not cooperating!)

Expat

[expat66]

Here is a picture off the internet of one of the 'on war service' badges

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Expat

[linell]

Expat wrote<<I am wondering when the photo was taken .... anyone good at dating photos from style of dress/ moustaches etc?>>>

I would think the Photo (looks like they are standing by a Churchyard) was taken around 1940. Have similar pictures of my Grandfather, taken around that time. Linell.

[FarSide]

Expat, post in the military section, maybe Adrian can help

The shape looks right to my untrained eye..

[linell]

Hi Expat, my hubby said the Medals were given to legitimate workers, i.e. Coal Miners and the like, to show that they were proven workers needed by the Country, and not conscientious objectors who just refused to fight.

LInell.

[expat66]

Hi Expat, my hubby said the Medals were given to legitimate workers, i.e. Coal Miners and the like, to show that they were proven workers needed by the Country, and not conscientious objectors who just refused to fight.

LInell.

Thanks Linell,
That seems to make sense doesn't it?.... I suppose that metalworkers might have been manufacturing all manner of essential goods for the war effort.
Nice to think that there were ancestors who also 'did their bit' by working at home!

Expat

[sparkstopper]

I'm sure the owner of this site: which I'm a member of.
may be able to give you more info: I know he would be interested
in the photo.
http://www.ted.rudge.btinternet.co.uk/id24.htm
Give it a try........

[expat66]

I'm sure the owner of this site: which I'm a member of.
may be able to give you more info: I know he would be interested
in the photo.
http://www.ted.rudge.btinternet.co.uk/id24.htm
Give it a try........

Thanks sparkstopper
... just had a look at that site ... wow.. some good stuff on there!
Will give it a go
Expat

[sparkstopper]

Ted Rudge is the 'Carl Chinn' of Winson Green,
also a bit of an expert on the 'Black Patch' & the Gypsies.

[peterd]

Could this be a badge for apprenticeships/ guild/ union/ club/ something military??
Ernest was a tinworker ... could this be something to do with that?
On the back of the photo is... Baker-40 Kitchener Street, .... which I understand is in Winson Green
My Dad says there was a large park nearby there called Black Patch , where there was a large gypsy camp .. and that there was a rumour that Charlie Chaplin was born there?
( but now I'm getting side tracked!)

It is now the home of Avery Weigh-Tronix (formerly Avery Berkel), who make weighing scales. The site includes William Murdoch's cottage and overlooks Black Patch Park.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black_Patch_Park

[expat66]

Thankyou all for your help on this one
OK to archive
Expat