Can we find something on Patience and husband James Tromans?
I will add the marriage to look ups.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
HOLT Patience TROMANS James Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/001/358
?? Living nextdoor to John and Emma Ray
1881. 20, Queen Street, Rowley Regis,
James Tromans, head, 24, Chain Maker, Newtown
Patience, wife, 23,
James, son, 3,
Elizabeth A, daur, 1
All others born Cradley Heath
Still looking for correct fathers to add to BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ill-Family
*Archive?* Patience Holt b abt 1858
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Re: Patience Holt b abt
I posted this on another thread.
1851. Locks Lane, Dudley.
William Holt. 33. Coalminer. Oldswinford.
Mary Holt 38.
Emma Holt 16.
Elisha Holt 5.
William Holt 2. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
Mary Ann Holt 8 MO. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
John Hill 1. Visitor.
Others born Dudley, Worcestershire.
1851. Locks Lane, Dudley.
William Holt. 33. Coalminer. Oldswinford.
Mary Holt 38.
Emma Holt 16.
Elisha Holt 5.
William Holt 2. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
Mary Ann Holt 8 MO. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
John Hill 1. Visitor.
Others born Dudley, Worcestershire.
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Re: Patience Holt b abt
Poss,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1837.
HOLT William. SIDAWAY Mary. Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/001/57.
Extracted,
WILLIAM HOLT.
Spouse: MARY SIDAWAY.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1837. Old Swinford, Worcester.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1837.
HOLT William. SIDAWAY Mary. Oldswinford, St Mary. Dudley Register Office. 003/001/57.
Extracted,
WILLIAM HOLT.
Spouse: MARY SIDAWAY.
Marriage, 25 DEC 1837. Old Swinford, Worcester.
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Re: Patience Holt b abt
Yep Jimmy but this family are so complicated births and marriages reg under other names.
We have that on BCC but I was looking to see if we could clinch something else because the children havent been added as yet, just what has been confirmed...
The marriage may help or not prove father...
Im going to look into the children Mary Ann Gill had to see if possible who they belong to
Jo
We have that on BCC but I was looking to see if we could clinch something else because the children havent been added as yet, just what has been confirmed...
The marriage may help or not prove father...
Im going to look into the children Mary Ann Gill had to see if possible who they belong to
Jo
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Re: Patience Holt b abt
Jimmy wrote:I posted this on another thread.
1851. Locks Lane, Dudley.
William Holt. 33. Coalminer. Oldswinford.
Mary Holt 38.
Emma Holt 16.
Elisha Holt 5.
William Holt 2. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
Mary Ann Holt 8 MO. Kingswd, Staffordshire.
John Hill 1. Visitor.
Others born Dudley, Worcestershire.
I forgot to add William Holt 33. is not indexed, but on image.
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Re: Patience Holt b abt 1858
1891. 30, Queens Street, Rowley Regis
James Tromans, head, 34, Chain Maker, Dudley
Patience, wife, 33,
James, son, 13, Chain maker
Elizabeth, daur, 11,
Esther, daur, 9,
Bhinnel? Daur, 6,
Hannah, daur, 4,
Alice, daur, 2,
All others born Rowley Regis
1901. 30 Queens Street, Rowley Regis
James Tromans, head, 44, Chain Maker, Newtown
Patience, wife, 43, Dudley
James, son, 23, Chain maker
Esther, daur, 19, Chain Maker
Patience, daur, 16, chain maker
Hannah, daur, 14,
Alice, daur, 12,
Flory, daur, 9,
Mabel, daur, 7,
Ethel, daur, 5,
Betha, daur, under a month
All others born Cradley Heath
James Tromans, head, 34, Chain Maker, Dudley
Patience, wife, 33,
James, son, 13, Chain maker
Elizabeth, daur, 11,
Esther, daur, 9,
Bhinnel? Daur, 6,
Hannah, daur, 4,
Alice, daur, 2,
All others born Rowley Regis
1901. 30 Queens Street, Rowley Regis
James Tromans, head, 44, Chain Maker, Newtown
Patience, wife, 43, Dudley
James, son, 23, Chain maker
Esther, daur, 19, Chain Maker
Patience, daur, 16, chain maker
Hannah, daur, 14,
Alice, daur, 12,
Flory, daur, 9,
Mabel, daur, 7,
Ethel, daur, 5,
Betha, daur, under a month
All others born Cradley Heath
Re: Patience Holt b abt 1858
May already have this
1861
Simms? lane, Dudley
Maryann Holt 36 - Widow
Emma Holt 20 - Nailmaker
Elisha Holt 16 - Coalminer
William Holt 13 - Coalminer - b Brierley hill
Mary Ann Holt 11 - b Brierley hill - cripple
Joseph Holt 9 - b Brierley hill
Thomas Holt 4
Patience Holt 4
Elizabeth Holt 2 MO
Charles Howard 40 - Visitor - unm - Bricklayer - b Dudley
others b Holly hall
all kids of Mary Ann
Poss
1871
Mary A Bellingham 52 - can't read if married or not
Joseph Holt 18 - Coalminer - b Kingswinford
Edward Holt 16 - Coalminer
Thomas Holt 14 - Coalminer
Patience Holt 12
Elisha Holt 10
others b Dudley
all kids of Mary A
These are on the Elisha thread, should have read that first..
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10286&p=123432&hilit=elisha+holt#p123432
1861
Simms? lane, Dudley
Maryann Holt 36 - Widow
Emma Holt 20 - Nailmaker
Elisha Holt 16 - Coalminer
William Holt 13 - Coalminer - b Brierley hill
Mary Ann Holt 11 - b Brierley hill - cripple
Joseph Holt 9 - b Brierley hill
Thomas Holt 4
Patience Holt 4
Elizabeth Holt 2 MO
Charles Howard 40 - Visitor - unm - Bricklayer - b Dudley
others b Holly hall
all kids of Mary Ann
Poss
1871
Mary A Bellingham 52 - can't read if married or not
Joseph Holt 18 - Coalminer - b Kingswinford
Edward Holt 16 - Coalminer
Thomas Holt 14 - Coalminer
Patience Holt 12
Elisha Holt 10
others b Dudley
all kids of Mary A
These are on the Elisha thread, should have read that first..
viewtopic.php?f=31&t=10286&p=123432&hilit=elisha+holt#p123432
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Re: Patience Holt b abt 1858
Mary Ann marries Samuel, daug Patience marries James son of Samuel..
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ans-Family
1861
Bowling green, Dudley
Samuel Tromans 35 - Nailmaker
Elizabeth Tromans 32 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Tromans 13 - Nailmaker
John Tromans 6 - b Dudley
James Tromans 4 - b Dudley
Isaac Tromans 1 - b Dudley
others b Rowley
1871
26 New Town, Dudley
Isaac Tromons 67 - Nailmaker
Maria Tromons 66
Mary Tromons 41 - daug - Nailmaker - deaf & dumb
Samuel Tromons 45 - Boarder - Labourer
Elizabeth Tromons 42 - wife
John Tromons 16 - Nailmaker
James Tromons 14 - Nailmaker marries Patience Holt
Isaac Tromons 11
Prudence Tromons 7
Hannah Tromons 5
Samuel Tromons 5 Months
all b New Town
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ans-Family
1861
Bowling green, Dudley
Samuel Tromans 35 - Nailmaker
Elizabeth Tromans 32 - Nailmaker
Mary Ann Tromans 13 - Nailmaker
John Tromans 6 - b Dudley
James Tromans 4 - b Dudley
Isaac Tromans 1 - b Dudley
others b Rowley
1871
26 New Town, Dudley
Isaac Tromons 67 - Nailmaker
Maria Tromons 66
Mary Tromons 41 - daug - Nailmaker - deaf & dumb
Samuel Tromons 45 - Boarder - Labourer
Elizabeth Tromons 42 - wife
John Tromons 16 - Nailmaker
James Tromons 14 - Nailmaker marries Patience Holt
Isaac Tromons 11
Prudence Tromons 7
Hannah Tromons 5
Samuel Tromons 5 Months
all b New Town
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Re: Patience Holt b abt 1858
Thanks for the look up Rocky Fowler!
9th July 1877. St Peters Cradley
James Tromans, 20, B, Chain Maker, Cradley Heath, Samuel Tromans, Labourer
Patience Holt, 20, S, Nailer, Cradley Heath, William Holt, Miner
Banns
James signed, X of Patience.
Witnesses:- X of Thomas Holt. X of Sophia Holt
Patience names her father as William. So will add that to BCC.
Jo
9th July 1877. St Peters Cradley
James Tromans, 20, B, Chain Maker, Cradley Heath, Samuel Tromans, Labourer
Patience Holt, 20, S, Nailer, Cradley Heath, William Holt, Miner
Banns
James signed, X of Patience.
Witnesses:- X of Thomas Holt. X of Sophia Holt
Patience names her father as William. So will add that to BCC.
Jo
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