ARC TBC - John Griffiths
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ARC TBC - John Griffiths
Just been browsing the griffiths section of BCC and found John Griffiths marriage to mary pardoe .the grooms father was Charles Griffiths collier i believe that this is my charles griffiths in oldswinford ive been searching for in my previous posts.To add insult to injury i didnt even have john on my tree!!!!Any suggestions as how to prove the connections
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Re: John Griffiths
So is it this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =207476838
I am bit lost
what do we need to help you with
is this the thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6607&hilit=charles+griffiths
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =207476838
I am bit lost
what do we need to help you with

is this the thread
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=6607&hilit=charles+griffiths
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Re: John Griffiths
1841. Heath Lane, Lye
Samuel Pardoe, 60, Nailer
Elizabeth, 60,
Ann, 20,
Thomas?, 6
Edward, 2,
/John Griffiths, 25, ?
Mary, 25,
All born in County
1851. The Hill, Upper Swinford
John Griffiths, head, 30, Blackmith
Mary, wife, 38,
Thomas, son, 15,Nail Maker
Sarah, daur, 12,
George, son, 7,
Emma?, daur, 3,
Eli, son, 8 m
All born Oldswinford
1861. Back lane, Upper Swinford
John Griffiths, head, 42, labourer, Stourbridge
Mary, wife, 49,
Sarah, daur, 18,
George, son, 16,
Caleb, son, 6
All others born Upper Swinford
1871. Back lane, Upperswinford
John Griffiths, head, 55,Stourbridge
Mary, wife, 59, Oldswinford
Caleb, son, 16, Labourer, Oldswinford
1881. new Meeting Street, Oldbury
James Tonks, head, 70, Coal Miner, Salop
Catherine, wife,64
/John Griffiths, Lodger, W, 63,Labourer
Caleb griffiths, lodger, 23, puddler
All others born Worcestershire
Samuel Pardoe, 60, Nailer
Elizabeth, 60,
Ann, 20,
Thomas?, 6
Edward, 2,
/John Griffiths, 25, ?
Mary, 25,
All born in County
1851. The Hill, Upper Swinford
John Griffiths, head, 30, Blackmith
Mary, wife, 38,
Thomas, son, 15,Nail Maker
Sarah, daur, 12,
George, son, 7,
Emma?, daur, 3,
Eli, son, 8 m
All born Oldswinford
1861. Back lane, Upper Swinford
John Griffiths, head, 42, labourer, Stourbridge
Mary, wife, 49,
Sarah, daur, 18,
George, son, 16,
Caleb, son, 6
All others born Upper Swinford
1871. Back lane, Upperswinford
John Griffiths, head, 55,Stourbridge
Mary, wife, 59, Oldswinford
Caleb, son, 16, Labourer, Oldswinford
1881. new Meeting Street, Oldbury
James Tonks, head, 70, Coal Miner, Salop
Catherine, wife,64
/John Griffiths, Lodger, W, 63,Labourer
Caleb griffiths, lodger, 23, puddler
All others born Worcestershire
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Re: John Griffiths
So this could be father Charles
not decd on marriage
1841 lower lane, stourbridge
Charles Griffiths 45 collier
Elizabeth Griffiths 40
Absalom Griffiths 15
Amy Griffiths 12
Mary Griffiths 10
George Griffiths 7
James Griffiths 5
same page few doors down looks like all in same household
Mary Garbett abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
John Taylor abt 1811 , Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Susannah Taylor abt 1776 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Matilda Griffiths abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
then poss wife in 1851 wid
1851 new st, Stourbridge
Elizabeth Griffiths 55 wid nailer
Henry Griffiths 19 Labourer
George Griffiths 17 forgeman
James Griffiths 15 spade maker
Mary Griffiths 6
all born stourbridge
so then poss bapts extracted
JNO. GRIFFITHS
Christening: 08 SEP 1816 Old Swinford, Worcester,
ABSALOM GRIFFITHS
Christening: 14 JUL 1822 Old Swinford, Worcester,
MATILDA GRIFFITHS
Christening: 28 MAY 1820 Old Swinford, Worcester,
parents.....
Father: CHARLES GRIFFITHS
Mother: ELIZABETH
not decd on marriage
1841 lower lane, stourbridge
Charles Griffiths 45 collier
Elizabeth Griffiths 40
Absalom Griffiths 15
Amy Griffiths 12
Mary Griffiths 10
George Griffiths 7
James Griffiths 5
same page few doors down looks like all in same household
Mary Garbett abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
John Taylor abt 1811 , Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Susannah Taylor abt 1776 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
Matilda Griffiths abt 1821 Old Swinford, Worcestershire
then poss wife in 1851 wid
1851 new st, Stourbridge
Elizabeth Griffiths 55 wid nailer
Henry Griffiths 19 Labourer
George Griffiths 17 forgeman
James Griffiths 15 spade maker
Mary Griffiths 6
all born stourbridge
so then poss bapts extracted
JNO. GRIFFITHS
Christening: 08 SEP 1816 Old Swinford, Worcester,
ABSALOM GRIFFITHS
Christening: 14 JUL 1822 Old Swinford, Worcester,
MATILDA GRIFFITHS
Christening: 28 MAY 1820 Old Swinford, Worcester,
parents.....
Father: CHARLES GRIFFITHS
Mother: ELIZABETH
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Re: John Griffiths
Didnt realise ggg grandpa charles was on bcc is he a new addition?This gives me proof of his connection to john as id found jno griffiths on IGI but wasnt sure if that was john or how to prove it,but now you have thankx.Matilda is johns sister in a lodging house. Im hoping all this will help me somehow find Charles birth details as this is where i have been stuck for years hence the thread i posted earlier.There is no trace of a charles birth in the area at the time suggested by census details so wondering if charles may have been his second name but realy dont know how to move forward from here 

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Re: John Griffiths
Or have i got it wrong because jno's dates and john's dates dont match !!!!!!!!!!! any clues on jno??? S
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Re: John Griffiths
we know that JOhn that married Mary Pardoe has a father Charles
the question is is it the Charles on 1841 with wife Elizabeth and dau Matilda
dunno
that is why I have only added in Charles
the question is is it the Charles on 1841 with wife Elizabeth and dau Matilda
dunno
that is why I have only added in Charles

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Re: John Griffiths
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Re: John Griffiths
Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?
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