*Arch pend more info* -HACKET/LAYTON relatives - By Raymond

[linell]

The Neale family were near the Webster family in B'ham Street 1851:-
George Neal HD M 52 Nailer H/O
Mary Wife 53 Rowley
Ann D U 32 All children born H/O
Wm Son 25
Eliza D 17
Thomas Son 14
Phoebe D 11
Samuel Son 9
Mary Ann D 5

[Northern Lass]

Pete do you need help with adding this to BCC if so just holla

[peterd]

The Neale family were near the Webster family in B'ham Street 1851:-
George Neal HD M 52 Nailer H/O
Mary Wife 53 Rowley
Ann D U 32 All children born H/O
Wm Son 25
Eliza D 17
Thomas Son 14
Phoebe D 11
Samuel Son 9
Mary Ann D 5

poss marriage

GEORGE NEALE
MARY LOWE
Marriage: 05 DEC 1819 Halesowen, Worcester,


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =689599302


any one find these in 41,61,or 71 census cheers

[linell]

Hi Peter and NL sorry not been much help today, been at Stafford Archives, have looked up the Marriage of George Neale bach otp and Mary Lowe, sp otp wcop, both made their mark, witnesses were Richard Holloway and Sarah Lowe, hth linell.

[mallosa]

1841: Birmingham St, Halesowen

Geo Neal 35 Nailer
Mary Neal 37 Nailer
Ann Neal 21 Nailer
Mary Neal 14 Nailer
Willm Neal 11 Nailer
Thomas Neal 6 Nailer
Eliza Neal 7 Nailer
Phebe Neal 4
Samuel Neal 2
all (Y) born in county

1851: above:

1861: Birmingham St, Halesowen

George Neal 62 H Nailmaker
Mary Neal 63 W Nailmaker
Phebe Neal 22 Dau Nailmaker
Mary Ann Neal 16 Dau Nailmaker
Sarah Ann Neal 3 Dau
Joseph Neal 6 Mths Son
all born H/Owen

1871: Peckingham St, Halesowen (next door to uninhabited Cross Public House?)

George Neal 72 H Ag Lab Ridgeacre Worcs
Mary Neal 74 W Rowley, Staffs
Eliza Baldicutt 34 Wid Nailmaker H/Owen
Jane Baldicutt 11 G.Dau H/Owen
William Baldicutt 9 G.Son H/Owen
Mary Baldicutt 4 G.Dau H/Owen


http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =919642144

[peterd]

poss eliza marriage

1854

NEAL Eliza BOARDACUTT William Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/206
NEAL Eliza BORDACUTT William Halesowen, St John the Baptist Dudley Register Office 014/002/206

[peterd]

1851 - 1901 census any chance of finding any of these


these below are 1881 census

Thomas WEBSTER 28 Halesowen, Worcester, Railway Laborer
Hannah WEBSTER 27 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Samuel WEBSTER 7 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Hannah WEBSTER 1 m Halesowen, Worcester,

poss marriage

WEBSTER Thomas BASTERFIELD Hannah 1878 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/320



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next to mary neale 1881 census

Thomas BASTERFIELD M Male 30 Halesowen, Worcester, England Lab At Tube Works
Hannah BASTERFIELD M Female 38 Halesowen, Worcester, England Nailer
Charlotte WHITE W Female 78 Halesowen, Worcester, England Formerly Nailer
Sarah (Hannah) WHITE U Female 22 Halesowen, Worcester, England Nailer

and there marriage

BASTERFIELD Thomas WHITE Hannah 1872 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/56


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living next to david rose

Charles WHITE 53 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Eliza WHITE 44 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Annie WHITE 22 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Charlotte WHITE 20 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Jane WHITE 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Josiah WHITE 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar
Charles WHITE 8 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar

poss marriage

WHITE Charles ADAMS Eliza 1857 Dudley, St Thomas West Midlands Dudley Register Office 204/017/14

[FarSide]

Do you have this already, haven't been on for a couple of days..
1871
146
Birmingham Street, (Welkers' yard or Walkers'), Halesowen
Thomas Neal 38
Betsy Neal 34
Sarah A Neal 13
Emily Neal 10
Charles Neal 8
Betsy Neal 5
Bertha Neal 3
James Neal 2
Carolina Neal 2 months
Nailmakers, all b Halesowen

[peterd]

cheers fs that was a missing census

no on http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =982734337

[Northern Lass]

I have to say that this has been an amazing topic!
really enjoyed this one!!!

and credit goes to all of you for diving in and finding all of this information out for Raymond I know he is over the moon about it!
And special credit to our Peterd who set the ball rolling nice one Pete!

What a brilliant team of researchers we have on Genealogy uk!

[grangers14]

I have been trying to find Thomas Webster and family and havent come up what was listed in 1881. There is this though?? Could Mary A be Hannah?
1891
RG12; Piece: 2363; Folio 13; Page 19

133, Grove Lane, Harborne
Thomas Webster, head, 39, general labourer,
Hannah, wife, 38
Samuel, son, 16, drier in ?
Mary A, daur, 11
All born Halesowen

1901
RG13; Piece: 2820; Folio: 111; Page: 45

219 Grove Lane, Smethwick,
Thomas Webster, head, 48, bolier makers labourer,
Hannah, wife, 47,
Mary A, daur, 21, screw maker

Jo

[FarSide]

CHARLES WHITE
Christening: 06 APR 1828 Halesowen, Worcester,

Father: BENJAMIN WHITE
Mother: CHARLOTTE


poss siblings

CHARLES WHITE
Christening: 06 APR 1828 Halesowen, Worcester,

2. JANE WHITE
Christening: 16 SEP 1832 Halesowen, Worcester,

3. JOHN WHITE
Christening: 08 JUL 1839 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 28 JUN 1840

4. PHOEBE WHITE
Christening: 14 AUG 1836 Halesowen, Worcester,

5. JOSIAH WHITE
Christening: 24 OCT 1841 Halesowen, Worcester,
Death: 08 APR 1850

1841
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Benjn White 40
Charlotte White 35
Charles White 15
Jane White 9
William White 12
John White 77
Nailors, all b in c

1851
30
Birmingham Road, Halesowen
Yorks yard
Benjamin White 48
Charlotte White 46
Jane White 18
Hannah White 6
John White 84 - Widow - Nailor & pauper
Nailors all b Halesowen

1861
97
Birmingham Road, Halesowen
Yorks yard
Benjamin White 62 - Bricklayers labourer
Charlotta White 51
Thomas White 16
Priscilla Hackett 22 - Boarder - unmarried
Eliza Hackett 1 - daug daughter
others Nailors, all b Halesowen

next door
98
Joseph Hackett 27
Mary Ann Hackett 26
Thomas Hackett 8
Elizabeth Hackett 4
William Hackett 1
Nailors, all b Halesowen

99
Samuel Bayliss 34
Sarah Bayliss 36
Fanny Hackett 14
Myra Hackett 12
Emma Hackett 9
Emma Sawyer 15
Nailors, all b Halesowen

Marriages Mar 1861
Bayliss Samuel Stourbridge 6c 179
Hackett Sarah Stourbridge 6c 179

100
Henry Hackett 37
Ellen Hackett 37
John Hackett 14
William Hackett 12
Myra Hackett 9
Henry Hackett 7
Alfred Hackett 5
Sarah Ann Hackett 1
Nailors, all b Halesowen


1871
77
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Yorks yard
Benjamin White 72 - Bricklayers labourer
Charlotte White 67
Anna White 26
others Nailors, all b Halesowen

[FarSide]

next to mary neale 1881 census

Thomas BASTERFIELD M Male 30 Halesowen, Worcester, England Lab At Tube Works
Hannah BASTERFIELD M Female 38 Halesowen, Worcester, England Nailer
Charlotte WHITE W Female 78 Halesowen, Worcester, England Formerly Nailer
Sarah (Hannah) WHITE U Female 22 Halesowen, Worcester, England Nailer

and there marriage

BASTERFIELD Thomas WHITE Hannah 1872 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/56

1891
111
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Barracks yard
Thomas Basterfield 43 - Tube worker
Hannah Basterfield 46 - Nailor
all b Halesowen

109 (poss no relation - was there so I included it)
James Hackett 27 - Blacksmith striker
Emma Hackett 27 - Nailor
Sarah Hackett 2
Charles Hackett 10/12
all b Halesowen

110
Charles White 63 - Nailor
Eliza White 54
Josiah White 22 - Nailor
Charles White 18 - Nailor
all b Halesowen

113
Mary A Neal 24 - Head - Nailor
William Neal 1
Harriett Neal 5
William Neal 62 - Father - Bricklayers labourer
George Stevington 23 - Boarder
all b Halesowen

next door to elizabeth

1881 census

Mary NEAL Head W 86 Halesowen, Worcester, Formerly Nailer
William NEAL Son W 51 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Eliza NEAL Daur W 42 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
William NEAL Grand Son 19 Halesowen, Worcester, Baker Journeyman
Mary Ann NEAL Grand Daur 16 Halesowen, Worcester, Nailer
Polly NEAL Grand Daur 13 Halesowen, Worcester, Scholar

[FarSide]

I was looking for Thomas Basterfield and found that this guy Nico (I put on BCC awhile ago) looks to be incorrectly transcribed and should have been Thos.. if it is Thos it puts him about the right age b approx 1850, see here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =304144276
Could be the same Thomas

BASTERFIELD Thomas WHITE Hannah 1872 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/56

What do you think?

Copied from BCC - note Thomas living in Birmingham Street on the 71, thing is I still can't find them on the 61 and where did Hannah on the 71 come from I just don't know
1851
39
Garratts Fold, Halesowen
Thos Basterfield 34
Ann Basterfield 34
Saml Basterfield 13
Henry Basterfield 8
Nico Basterfield 1 (Nias?) - I think s/b Thos
all b Halesowen, Nailers

Don`t see them on the 61

1871
186
Birmingham Street, Halesowen
Thomas Basterfield 53
Hannah Basterfield 54 - Greengrocer
Thomas Basterfield 21
Hannah Basterfield 17
all b Halesowen, others Nailmakers

Next...
Could be thinking too much, poss Basterfield bro and sis...

poss marriage

WEBSTER Thomas BASTERFIELD Hannah 1878 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/320

and there marriage

BASTERFIELD Thomas WHITE Hannah 1872 Halesowen, St John the Baptist West Midlands Dudley Register Office 014/004/56
and there marriage

[Jimmy]

in his stamp collection he found a letter adressed edith from a mrs l siviter 8 lutley ave Halseowen dated 1963

found this

Marriages Dec 1924

Layton Lily Siviter Stourbridge 6c 95
Siviter Joseph H Layton Stourbridge 6c 95


lily poss younger sister or niece ?

Could these be children of the above marriage, mothers maiden name LAYTON.

Births Jun 1925.
Siviter Colin W. Stourbridge 6c 26.
Births Jun 1927.
Siviter Iris B. Stourbridge 6c 8.
Births Dec 1930.
Siviter Ronald Layton. Stourbridge 6c 11.