*archive?* Could someone look over this family Please?

[grangers14]

Ive been looking into this family. I would just like another opinion if someone has time please.
The 1861 census has a wife as Mary and Im wondering if its just been added to the schedule wrongly? Also Joseph born about 1870 is as son but 1891 therea Joseph as Grand son.

1851. Heawers? Lane, Rowley Regis
Samuel Bowater, head, 24, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 24, Nailer
Joseph, son, 6,
Mary Ann, daur, 2

1861. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
Samuel Bowater, head, 33, Coal Miner
Mary, wife, 33,
Joseph, son, 14, Coal Miner
Mary A, daur, 12, Nailer
Sarah, daur, 10, Nailer
Samuel, son, 6,
William, son, 4,
Richard, son, 1
All born Rowley

1871. Rowley Road, (Blackheath) Rowley Regis
Samuel Bowater, head, 43, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 45, Nail Maker
Mary A, daur, 23, Nail Maker
Samuel, son, 16, Coal Miner
William, son, 14, Coal Miner
Eliza, daur, 10,
Elizabeth, daur, 8,
Thomas, son, 4,
Joseph, son, 1


1881. 56, Birmingham Road, Rowley Regis
Samuel Bowater, head, 54, Coal Miner
Sarah, wife, 54, Nail Maker
Eliza, daur, 19, Nail Maker
Elizabeth, daur, 17, Domestic serv
Thomas, son, 14, Shoe maker
Joseph, son, 11
All born Rowley Regis


1891. Long Lane, Hill
Samuel Bowater, head, 64, Coal miner
Sarah, wife, 64,
Thomas, son,24, Rivet maker
Elizabeth, daur, 26, Nailer
Joseph, grand son, 21, ? Smith
William, lodger, M, 35, Coal miner
All born Rowley Regis

[gardener]

I was going to agree about Sarah/Mary being a mistake but here are marriages for Samuel Bowater of WMBMD

1846
BOWATER Samuel RUSTON Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/280

1871
BOWATER Samuel ROBERTS Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/028/489

1873
BOWATER Samuel BIRD Sarah Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/031/210
BOWATER Samuel HIPKISS Mary Brierley Hill, St Michael Dudley Register Office 210/003/22

The last one seems to fit with Samuel Bowater born 1852
The other three are not found except for the one married to Sarah taht you have. So perhaps Samuel married three times? And Mary (A) just made it onto the 1871 census.

Added: though the marriage to Mary A Roberts is Sep qtr which would be too late for the census I think

[Annie]

I've had a look and it all follows ok , just the name Mary A on the 1861 and Joseph saying grandson in 1891, I think the name Mary must have been wrote down wrong Graingers.

Now I have seen those marriages I am also thinking twice.

Annie

[gardener]

Joseph Bowater born 4 Jan 1847 , bapt 18 Jun 1854 Rowley Regis, Samuel and Sarah
Sarah and Mary Ann baptised same day, no birthdate given (IGI extracted)

Perhaps you could get the later Sarah's marriage looked up, just to be sure. But otherwise it looks OK, and young Joseph perhaps son of daughter Mary Ann or Sarah?

[grangers14]

Thanks
my head is getting in a pickle looking at Bowater all day!

Looking at it the marriage to Mary Hipkiss cant be right father is Eli on family search, possibly on BCC with daughter Mary born 1850.
So can cross that out...

[grangers14]

Thanks gardener. I have added young Joseph to look ups he married Rosannah Blizzard I think.
Family search has his father as Samuel.
This is what I was looking at on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =347082323

and
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =752577446

[peterd]

note on joseph, in 1861 samuel has son joseph 14

in 1891 gran son joseph 21 and 1871 wrong for son ?

Who to say 1891 joseph (c 1870) is not the son of joseph age 14 in 1861 ? (24 in 1870 poss married)

[grangers14]

Thanks.
I think its best if I get the marriages checked out first.

Added to look ups.
Archive?
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