ARC TBC.................Samuel Brown

[nessa]

I am looking for Samuel Brown born june 1902 around the Cradley Heath Old Hill Netherton area the only other thing I know is he had a sister called Rose not sure when she was born ,later she moved to USA. He did marry Marion Kirton.

Thanks,
Nessa

[peterd]

marriage

BROWN Samuel KIRTON Marion 1928 Cradley, St Peter West Midlands Dudley Register Office 013/004/458

you not got the cert then ?

[nessa]

No I haven't got the certificate I was hoping to find him without the expense of the marriage certificate but I may well have to send fir it,

Nessa

[Jimmy]

Do you know who Rose married and when she went to America.

[Annie]

I am looking for Samuel Brown born june 1902 around the Cradley Heath Old Hill Netherton area the only other thing I know is he had a sister called Rose not sure when she was born ,later she moved to USA. He did marry Marion Kirton.

Thanks,
Nessa

I have looked on the 1911 census and looked at all the Sameul Brown's but can't see one with a sister Rosa , there is one with a sister names Rose but his age is out by 3 years.

Annie

[nessa]

Hello Annie,

I don't know who she married or when she went to USA, is it possible to have the details for the Samuel and Rose you have it could be my dates are out.

Nessa

[Annie]

Hello Annie,

I don't know who she married or when she went to USA, is it possible to have the details for the Samuel and Rose you have it could be my dates are out.

Nessa

Hi Nessa here it is, also posting one for Marion it's the only Marion I could find in that area, have you added the marriage peterd found for a look up and that should tell you the father name for both.

1911 19 Wesley St Oldbury
BROWN, Clement Head Married M 43 1868 Glass Shade Maker West Bromwich Staff
BROWN, Sussannah Wife Married F 44 1867 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, John Son Single M 21 1890 Blacksmith's Striker Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Emily Daughter Single F 20 1891 House Duties Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Clement Son Single M 17 1894 Oliver Lad Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Henry Son M 14 1897 Printers Lad Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Samuel Son M 12 1899 School Oldbury Worces
BROWN, William Son M 9 1902 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Mary Daughter F 7 1904 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Rose Daughter F 5 1906 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Thomas Son M 3 1908 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Arther Son M 2 1909 Oldbury Worces
BROWN, Albert Son M 1 1910 Oldbury Worces





1911: Butchers Lane Cradley Cradley Heath Staffordshire
KIRTON, David Head Married M 34 1877 Iron Chain Maker Cradley Worcester S
KIRTON, Hannah Wife Married
9 years F 39 1872 Iron Chain Maker Rowley Regis
KIRTON, Harold Son M 9 1902 Cradley Worcester S
KIRTON, Albert Son M 8 1903 Cradley Worcester S
KIRTON, Gwendoline Daughter F 6 1905 Cradley Worcester S
KIRTON, Marion Daughter F 4 1907 Cradley Worcester S
KIRTON, Millicent Daughter F 2 1909 Cradley Worcester S




Annie

[nessa]

Hi Annie,

The Marion Kirton you found is correct not sure about the Samuel brown, they were my husbands parents so he has decided to send for the marriage certificate, so we can be certain.
is there anyway to find out about Rose who emegrated to USA?

Nessa

[rockyfowler]

Sorry missed this thread busy enjoying weather
29 Sep 1928 St Peter Cradley
Samuel BROWN 26 B Electric Welder 18 Northfield Rd Netherton Father Samuel Brown (Dec) Stamper
Marion KIRTON 22 S 18 New St Cradley Father David Kirton Chain Maker
Wit; William Henry Brown William Kirton

[Annie]

Sorry missed this thread busy enjoying weather
29 Sep 1928 St Peter Cradley
Samuel BROWN 26 B Electric Welder 18 Northfield Rd Netherton Father Samuel Brown (Dec) Stamper
Marion KIRTON 22 S 18 New St Cradley Father David Kirton Chain Maker
Wit; William Henry Brown William Kirton

Now you don't have to send for it Nessa Rockyfowler kindley looked up for you, so thank you RF. I will find you all the Samuel's with a father Samuelon the 1911 then you have them

Annie

[Annie]

Here is another 1911 census for Samuel with Father Samuel and the occupation looks good.

1911 71 Victoria Road Quarry Bank Brierley Hill
BROWN, Samuel Head Married M 39 1872 Holloware Stamper Worc Netherton
BROWN, Annie Wife Married
1 years F 42 1869 Staffs Wordsley
BROWN, Lucy Daughter Single F 15 1896 Packer Quarry Bank Staffordshire
BROWN, William Son M 13 1898 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
BROWN, Samuel Son M 8 1903 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Leonard Stepson M 11 1900 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Joseph Stepson M 9 1902 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Winnie Stepdaughter F 6 1905 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Beatrice Daughter F 1 1910 Quarry Bank Staffordshire

Annie

[Annie]

These are all the Samuels' I can find with a father Samuel Nessa, if the one above is the correct one you will need to find father Samuel on a earlier census to find Samuel's mother's name.




1911 4 Trent Walk Hanley Stoke on Trent
BROWN, Samuel Head Married M 44 1867 Carter General Staffs Hanley
BROWN, Eliza Ann Wife Married
24 years F 44 1867 Staffs Hanley
BROWN, Thomas Son Single M 24 1887 Potters Placer Staffs Hanley
BROWN, William Son Single M 21 1890 Potters Placer Staffs Hanley
BROWN, Eliza Ann Daughter Single F 18 1893 Potters Cupmaker Staffs Hanley
BROWN, Samuel Son M 9 1902 School Staffs Hanley
BROWN, May Daughter F 7 1904 School Staffs Hanley


1911 22 Werrington Road Bucknall Stoke on Trent
BROWN, Sam Head Married M 35 1876 Colliery Carter Above Ground Staffs Endow
BROWN, Hannah Wife Married
13 years F 32 1879 Housewife Froghall Staffs
BROWN, Ernald Son M 12 1899 School Boy Ford Hayes Staffs
BROWN, Sam Son M 10 1901 School Boy Dilhorne Staffs
BROWN, Herbert Son M 9 1902 School Hulme Staffs
BROWN, Hannah Catherine Daughter F 6 1905 Hulme Staffs
BROWN, Louie Daughter F 1 1910 Bucknall Staffs

1911 51 Thomas Street Packmoor Stoke on Trent
BROWN, Samuel Head Married M 33 1878 Coal Miner Hewer Pack Moor Staffs
BROWN, Maria Wife Married
11 years F 33 1878 Pack Moor Staffs
BROWN, Florance E Daughter F 10 1901 School Pack Moor Staffs
BROWN, John W Son M 9 1902 School Pack Moor Staffs
BROWN, Samuel Son M 7 1904 Pack Moor Staffs
BROWN, Joseph Son M 1 1910 Pack Moor Staffs


1911 24 Birch St Wolverhampton
BROWN, Samuel Soden Head Married M 40 1871 Motor And Cycle Dealer Birmingham War
BROWN, Sophia Wife Married
11 years F 43 1868 Birmingham War
BROWN, Samuel Soden Son M 8 1903 School Wolverhampton Staffs
BROWN, Violet Jennie Daughter F 6 1905 School Wolverhampton Staffs


Annie

[Jimmy]

Here is another 1911 census for Samuel with Father Samuel and the occupation looks good.

1911 71 Victoria Road Quarry Bank Brierley Hill
BROWN, Samuel Head Married M 39 1872 Holloware Stamper Worc Netherton
BROWN, Annie Wife Married
1 years F 42 1869 Staffs Wordsley
BROWN, Lucy Daughter Single F 15 1896 Packer Quarry Bank Staffordshire
BROWN, William Son M 13 1898 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
BROWN, Samuel Son M 8 1903 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Leonard Stepson M 11 1900 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Joseph Stepson M 9 1902 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Winnie Stepdaughter F 6 1905 School Quarry Bank Staffordshire
DUNN, Beatrice Daughter F 1 1910 Quarry Bank Staffordshire

Annie

This one looks good,

1901. 15, Victoria Road, Quarry Bank. Brierley Hill.
Samuel Brown 29. Hollow ware stamper. Dudley.
Sarah A Brown 26.
Lilly Brown 6.
Lucy Brown 5.
William H Brown 3.
Rose Brown 1.

Others born Brierley Hill.

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1909.
BROWN Samuel. DUNN Annie. Dudley, St Andrew. Dudley Register Office. 205/012/443.

[Jimmy]

West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1906.
BROWN Sarah A. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/101/6.

Deaths Jun 1906.
BROWN Sarah Ann. 31. Stourbridge. 6c. 91.

Or,
West Midlands Death indexes for the years: 1907.
BROWN Sarah A. Kingswinford. Dudley Register Office. KIN/103/18.

Deaths Jun 1907.
BROWN Sarah. 29. Stourbridge. 6c. 71.