ARC TBC HELP PLEASE re James Powell & Nicholas

[peterd]

James Powell is my real problem all i have is that he was born in Ireland abt 1800 , on his sons marriage cert his profession is Soldier, also his address was The Knowle Rowley Regis. Can anyone shed any light on The Knowle, what it is ,where can i find an address or indeed where can i find his death or birth , who was his wife? This man is doing my head in.

might be worth putting this in the military section too they might find something ?

[peterd]

if this him in 1881

The Square, Whitwood, York,

Nicholas POWELL 64 Ireland Coal Miner
Elizabeth POWELL 72 Dudley, Stafford, England
Thomas MATHERS Boarder M 57 Dublin, Ireland Coal Miner.

have you check the lodger out to see if he connects ?

Coincidence?

1841. Bromley, Kingswinford.
James Powell 20. Miner.
Mary Powell 20.
Mather Powell 20.
Prissila Powell 25.
Wm Powell 9 MO.
Wm Powell 10.

Only William born in County, others born in foriegn parts.

wonder if mary surname mathers ?

can we find james and mathers in the 1851 please

[nosh3r]

Thanx peterd
have put it in military !

[Jimmy]

The address on this marriage may not have have any meaning, they could be have been living almost anywhere.

5 April 1847 St Giles Rowley Regis.
Nicholas Powell. 21. bach miner. The Knowle. father Thomas, crossed out and James added Soldier.
Elizabeth Sheldon. 28. spinster. The Knowle. Thomas miner.
X both
banns
Wit- John Hickman X / Elizabeth Palmer X.

[nosh3r]

The address on this marriage may not have have any meaning, they could be have been living almost anywhere.

5 April 1847 St Giles Rowley Regis.
Nicholas Powell. 21. bach miner. The Knowle. father Thomas, crossed out and James added Soldier.
Elizabeth Sheldon. 28. spinster. The Knowle. Thomas miner.
X both
banns
Wit- John Hickman X / Elizabeth Palmer X.

What do you mean by living almost anywhere ?

[Northern Lass]

Yes, I put that 1841 census on the thread in Military.

Had a good look for James in the military records but there is nothing that matches at Chelsea or the Militia.

There are a few officers in the army listings but without further information it is impossible to match him up.

James could also be with the East India Company and FIBIS would be a good place to look.

Had a good look for a Nicholas Powell (and variants of) being born in Ireland via that VERY EXPENSIVE site, Irish Family History Foundation, and found zero which is a worry.

I have been looking for your James and have a few questions....

What relationship has the Vaughan family to the Powell family?

In 1851, Frank is staying with them.

1851 census transcription details for: Cabbage Hall, Dudley
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 2032 Folio: 415 Page: 29

Reg. District: Dudley Sub District: Dudley
Parish: Dudley Enum. District: 1O
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough: Dudley
Address: Cabbage Hall, Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation ,Disability Where Born
VAUGHAN, Richard Head Married M 35 1816 Duddlesbury Shropshire
VAUGHAN, Anne Wife F 42 1809 Witton Radnorshire
VAUGHAN, Emma Daughter F 11 1840 Duddlesbury Shropshire
VAUGHAN, Richard Son M 3 1848 Dudley Worcestershire
POWELL, Frank Uriah Visitor F 1 (18 MOS) 1850 Dudley Worcestershire
LEWIS, Edward Servant M 22 1829 Farm Servant Dont Know

I also think Frank and Francis are the same person.....

[Northern Lass]

Merged posts and added here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =741978676

[rockyfowler]

Knowle means anywhere- Springfield darby End etc it was a name for a wide area- like saying from london or dudley no real address just area

[Jimmy]

The address on this marriage may not have have any meaning, they could be have been living almost anywhere.

5 April 1847 St Giles Rowley Regis.
Nicholas Powell. 21. bach miner. The Knowle. father Thomas, crossed out and James added Soldier.
Elizabeth Sheldon. 28. spinster. The Knowle. Thomas miner.
X both
banns
Wit- John Hickman X / Elizabeth Palmer X.

What do you mean by living almost anywhere ?

All people had to do was to say that they resided in the parish of the marriage for so long before the marriage.

[nosh3r]

Thanx to jimmy and rocky, now i understand.

would there be any local archives i could try to find them , parish , churches or other ?

[Northern Lass]

if this him in 1881

The Square, Whitwood, York,

Nicholas POWELL 64 Ireland Coal Miner
Elizabeth POWELL 72 Dudley, Stafford, England
Thomas MATHERS Boarder M 57 Dublin, Ireland Coal Miner.

have you check the lodger out to see if he connects ?

Coincidence?

1841. Bromley, Kingswinford.
James Powell 20. Miner.
Mary Powell 20.
Mather Powell 20.
Prissila Powell 25.
Wm Powell 9 MO.
Wm Powell 10.

Only William born in County, others born in foriegn parts.

wonder if mary surname mathers ?

can we find james and mathers in the 1851 please

Who are that lot in 1841?
are they related to Nicholas?

Who marries whom

[nosh3r]

i have no idea who they are, never come across them before.

[Northern Lass]

just odd that name mathers as Peterd and Jo flagged

[Maths girl]

Coincidence?

1841. Bromley, Kingswinford.
James Powell 20. Miner.
Mary Powell 20.
Mather Powell 20.
Prissila Powell 25.
Wm Powell 9 MO.
Wm Powell 10.

Only William born in County, others born in foriegn parts.

FMP has Mather as Nathan so followed this idea up and
1851 Bromley, Kingswinford
POWELL, Nathaniel Head Married M 35 1816 Coal Miner Llangonttham Radnorshire
POWELL, Prescillaim Wife Married F 40 1811 Little Dawley Shropshire
POWELL, William Son Unmarried M 10 1841 Kingswinford Staffordshire
POWELL, Jesse Son Unmarried M 5 1846 Kingswinford Staffordshire

So I don't think there is a MAther connection

[Jimmy]

Have you tried this Irish site,

http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/