*Archived * -Baker/Flavell connection ?

[mumbles]

Suki has Benjamin Baker born 1781 RR and I have a Benjamin Baker born 1781 RR who was father of an Elizabeth Baker who married Major Flavell b.1805 see below for Census and other details.
I believe it is same Benjamin Baker


Joshua Flavell & Jane Flavell (nee Timmins) married c. 1800 and they had 7 children

William Flavell 1800 to 1800
Mary Ann Flavell 1801 to 1874
Major Flavell 1805 to 1894 who went on to marry Elizabeth Baker
Ann Maria Flavell 1808
Ruth Flavell 1812
Matilda Flavell 1816
Edward Flavell 1819 to 1837

Major Flavell & Elizabeth Flavell(nee Baker) had 10 Children of which 9 are detailed on Census details above but first Child Benjamin Flavell born c. 1824 is not noted on 1841 Census but appears on 1851 Census below.

1841 Census

Benjamin Baker M 55 Staffs. Gun Smith
Sharlot Baker F 55 Not Staffs.

Address:- Gosty Hill, Rowley Regis, Dudley, Staffordshire

Note:-a) Probably parents of Elizabeth Baker who married Major Flavell
b) A lot of Baker Surname from Rowley at this time were also Gunsmiths
c) In Rowley Regis Parish Register Susanna Baker daughter of Benjamin & Charlotte Baker Gunsmith of Gosty Hill was baptised on 20/3/1814 and on 11/8/1811 a son Peter was baptised


1851 Census
Benjamin Baker Head M M 69 Rowley, Stafffs. Carter
Charlotte Baker Wife M F 67 Halesowen,Worcs.
Benjamin Flavell Grd. Son U M 26 Rowley, Staffs. Lab. At Canal

Address:- Gosty Hill, Reddall Hill, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire

Benjamin Flavell married a Sarah Harding in 1856 Islington vol.1b page 275

1861 Census
Benjamin Flavell Head M M 39 Rowley, Staffs. Potato Porter
Sarah Flavell Wife M F 34 Bocking, Essex
Mary Flavell Dau U F 1 Middlesex, London
Address:- Lyon Street, Islington, Middlesex, London

[suki]

Have we got a marriage for Benjamin and Charlotte and elizabeth and Major?
Suki

[peterd]

poss benjamin and charlotte

BENJAMIN BAKER
CHARLOTTE SHAW

Marriage: 27 DEC 1802 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

[peterd]

extracted poss transcribe wrong

ELIZA BAKER
MAJOR TELAVEL

Marriage: 31 AUG 1823 Clent, Worcester

[mumbles]

Suki,
No marriages but the following Census details plus those already noted appear to confirm link.
Elizabeth is noted as Eliza on first two but becomes Elizabeth on last Census record.
1841 Census
Major Flavel M 30 Not Worcs. Tunnel Keeper
Eliza Flavel F 30 Ditto
William Flavel M 13 Ditto
Joseph Flavel M 10 Ditto
Peter Flavel M 8 Ditto
Isaac Flavel M 6 Ditto
Eliza Flavel F 4 Ditto
Major Flavel M 1 Ditto

Address:- Tunnels Mouth, Northfield , Kings Norton,Worcestershire

1851 Census
Major Flavell Head M M 45 Gorsty Hill,Staffs.Tunnel Keeper
Eliza Flavell Wife M F 44 Ditto
Joseph Flavel Son U M 19 Ditto Lab.
Peter Flavell Son U M 17 Ditto Waterman
Isaac Flavell Son U M 15 Halesowen,Salops. Ditto
Eliza Flavell Dau U F 12 Ditto
AllFred Flavell Son U M 8 Northfield.Worcs.
Henry Flavell Son U M 5 Ditto

Address:- Tunnels Mouth, Northfield , Kings Norton,Worcestershire

1861 Census
Major Flavell Head M M 57 Rowley, Staffs. Agent for Birmingham
Canal Company
Elizabeth Flavell Wife M F 56 Ditto
Henry Flavell Son U M 15 Ditto Scholar
Ann A. Flavell Grd.Dau. U F 10 Northfield, Worcs.

Address:- Dog Lane, Rowley Regis, Staffordshire, Northfield , Kings Norton,Worcestershire

[Northern Lass]

31 August 1823 Clent marriage
Major Flavel of the parish of Rowley Regis bach and Eliza X Baker sp of the parish of Rowley Regis,
by Banns
by Adolphus Hopkins Curate
Wit Mark Hallen and Mary Harris

[suki]

Is it safe to put these marriages on tribal. I notice that a lot of the Shaws from RR are Gunsmiths ie Aaron wife Susanna and from the Old hill area. I wonder if there are any other missing Bakers marriages at Clent???
Suki

[suki]

Just noticed on Tribal a marriage for Susannah Baker and Aaron Shaw Old Swin.does this tie in.
Suki

[Northern Lass]

If you feel that this connection is a good one then go for it mumbles.
Maybe use the notes section so people can see your reasoning.
Does that sound ok?

[mumbles]

I will insert as soon as possible. Rugby at weekend and I am immersed in research of Black Country People who moved to Liverpool in 19th Century at moment. Link is working well and I have had good response from Liverpool.

[Northern Lass]

I will insert as soon as possible. Rugby at weekend and I am immersed in research of Black Country People who moved to Liverpool in 19th Century at moment. Link is working well and I have had good response from Liverpool.

Nice one Mumbles

So this looks like it is now sorted....and unless otherwise advised will be moved to archived section within 24 hrs

[mumbles]

Nl,
All inserted but notes did not come out with correct spacing when inserted , perhaps you could adjust ? Under Elizabeth Baker

[Northern Lass]

Nl,
All inserted but notes did not come out with correct spacing when inserted , perhaps you could adjust ? Under Elizabeth Baker

Ok done them.....

Just to let you know to add a line space in the notes on Connections just put in the following after your wording
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that gives you a line break

archiving this now