*Archive?* 1841 look up please Mary NADEN

[dolly]

Looking for Mary Naden in 1841 please. She was born c1826 and married John Wood in 1841.
Marriages Dec 1841
WOOD John Macclesfield 19 131
NADEN Mary Macclesfield 19 131

I have the 1841 census fo John and she isn't with him. He is still with his parents at the time of the census as they didnt marry until later that year:

H0107/1003/4 folio 4 page 3 Allstonefield North Totmonslow Staffordshire
Colshaw

George Wood age 57 farmer all born in county
Sarah age 57
Sarah age 20
John age 22 ag lab
James age 15
Samuel age 15

On all the censuses with John & Mary together she is born Hollingsclough

[snoopysue]

Is this her?

1841
Sniddles, Alstonfield, Quarnford
NADEN, Mary F 35 Bottlemaker (?)
NADEN, James M 15 Silk worker
NADEN, Mary F 13 Silk worker
NADEN, Philip M 10 Silk worker
NADEN, John M 7
NADEN, Charlotte F 5
NADEN, Caroline F 2

All born in Staffs

[Jimmy]

Snap Sue, I read Mary 35 as a Button maker.

[snoopysue]

Snap Sue, I read Mary 35 as a Button maker.

That makes more sense!

[dolly]

Yes that does make more sense. None of the censuses I have seem to add up though, because of her age. Here is what I have now:

Birth: c1826

1841 Census:
Sniddles, Alstonfield, Quarnford
NADEN, Mary F 35 Bottlemaker (?)
NADEN, James M 15 Silk worker
NADEN, Mary F 13 Silk worker
NADEN, Philip M 10 Silk worker
NADEN, John M 7
NADEN, Charlotte F 5
NADEN, Caroline F 2
All born in Staffs

Marriage:
Marriages Dec 1841
WOOD John Macclesfield 19 131
NADEN Mary Macclesfield 19 131

1851 Census:
Flash Toll Gate, Quarnford.
John Wood 33. Gamekeeper. Colshaw, Staffordshire.
Mary Wood 39. Hollingclough, Staffordshire.
Saml Wood 8.
Sarah Wood 5.
John Wood 4.
Ann Wood 1.

1861 Census:
RG9/ 1949 folio 23 page 11 Hollinsclough Staffordshire
Colshaw
George Wood age 78 widow Hollins clough Farmer of 9 acres
John Wood son age 43 Hollins Clough Staffordshire ag lab
Mary Wood age 41 Hollins Clough daughter in law
Ann Wood age 11 Quarnford grandaughter
John Wood son age 6 Quarnford grandson
Jane Wood grandaughter age 3 months Hollins Clough
Other John must have died

Death:
Deaths Mar 1866
Wood, Mary 44 Leek 8b

The ages just don't seem to add up. Help please ???

[snoopysue]

On the face of it I'd say the 1841 census doesn't match up, even allowing for the discreprency you get with the 1841 census (they were supposed to round the ages down to the nearest 5 years!)

[snoopysue]

there's this:

1841
Peters, Alstonfield, Quarnford
NADEN, Jonah M 30 Ag Lab
NADEN, Ann F 30
Not Known M 0 (3 weeks)
NADEN, Mary F 20

All born in county

Matches up with the 1861 census, age-wise

[snoopysue]

There is another Mary Naden born 1821 living in Leek, but she seems to be married (living with a James Naden and 2 year old John Naden).

[snoopysue]

I've checked the 1851 census, it's not a mistranscription as far as Mary's age goes definately 39 years!

The 1861 census isn't so clear, the name Wood, could be many things! Although the last letter (d) looks very like how "ditto" is written.

[dolly]

That looks a lot more like it. It was a bit confusing as a lot of my ancestors lived at Sniddles Head Farm (my grandmother was born there) but on her mother's side and Mary Naden was on her father's side. If Mary did live at Sniddles then my great great great grandmother on my great grandfather's side (Mary) lived there in 1841 and them my great great grandmother, Ann Nadin Warrington on my great grandmother's side lived there 40 years later in 1881!! It could have been possible with the names Naden & Nadin for them to be related though but I think that the first 1841 must be the other family related to Ann Nadin Warrington. Very confusing.....
Thankyou

[snoopysue]

There were certainly a lot of Naden's in the area. When I did the last search there were about 30 Mary Naden's of all ages in the Leek area alone! So I suppose it's not impossible they were related somewhere!! I've not come across that surname before - you live and learn!!

[dolly]

I've checked the 1851 census, it's not a mistranscription as far as Mary's age goes definately 39 years!

The 1861 census isn't so clear, the name Wood, could be many things! Although the last letter (d) looks very like how "ditto" is written.

The 1861 census fits in with all the censuses I have for John's father, George so I know that is correct. I've had real trouble with John because as the censuses go on Mary's age changes yet again!! It turns out that John married twice - first to Mary Naden and then to Mary Day. Mary Naden died in 1866. In 1861 Mary was 41 and then in 1871 she was 44.....2 different Mary's though

[grangers14]

Is this completed Dolly?
Jo