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1901 Look up please Higgins COMPLETED THANKYOU

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Hi can anyone find the following family for me in 1901 please. It is Mary Elizabeth I am needing to find but also her parents if she is not with them. Mary Elizabeth married in 1904 in Blackpool, however she had a child (William Francis Higgins) in 1901 (after the census) who's birth was registered in Manchester. She will be in the Lancashire area somewhere but no idea where at the time of the census. The two witnesses for her marriage both had the surname "Carter" so i'm wondering if I may find them living with her

1891: Royston Street, West Derby, Lancashire
William Higgins 46 Head Coal Dealer Ireland
Mary Higgins 44 Wife Ireland
William Higgins 18 Son D Coal Dealer
Mary E Higgins 16 Dau
Annie Higgins 10 Dau
Ester Higgins 7 Dau
Frank Thompson 17 Lodger S Labourer Builder
(others born West Darby, Lancs)
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Re: 1901 Look up please Higgins

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Here's the family in 1901

1901 : 154, Empress Road, West Derby, Lancs
William Higgins, Head, 57, Coal Merchant, Born Ireland
Mary Higgins, Wife, 56. Born in Ireland
Patrick W Higgins, Son, 25, Carter
Annie Higgins, Daur, 20
Esther Higgins, Daur, 16
Others Born in Liverpool, Lancs

Found this Mary in 1901

1901 : 4, Mary Adelaide Place, West Derby, Lancs
Felix Brennan, Head, 41, General Labourer
Elizabeth Brennan, Wife, 36, Rope Spinner, Born in Bolton
Mary Higgins, Wife, 27, Rope Spinner
Mary E Higgins, Niece, 2 Months
Patrick J Martin, Nephew, 8
Others Born in Liverpool, Lancs

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Thankyou
I have the marriage certificate and Mary Elizabeth's father is listed as William Higgins, Coal Merchant. She was a spinster so hadn't been married before. Her residence at the time of the marriage was 33 Bagot Street and the marriage was in the Parish of South Shore in the County of Lancaster. Because of this information I think the original family I have in 1891 is correct and also the 1901 you have given me.
The other 1901 is very confusing as she is obviously not wife to Felix Brennan as his wife is listed, which means she is married but her husband isn't there? In which case this Mary must have married a Higgins and not been born Higgins so i'm thinking this has to be the wrong one, unless "wife" is a mistake as the age is about right.
Does anyone have the 1911 for either or both families? Thankyou
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Antie Em wrote:Here's the family in 1901

1901 : 154, Empress Road, West Derby, Lancs
William Higgins, Head, 57, Coal Merchant, Born Ireland
Mary Higgins, Wife, 56. Born in Ireland
Patrick W Higgins, Son, 25, Carter
Annie Higgins, Daur, 20
Esther Higgins, Daur, 16
Others Born in Liverpool, Lancs

Found this Mary in 1901

1901 : 4, Mary Adelaide Place, West Derby, Lancs
Felix Brennan, Head, 41, General Labourer
Elizabeth Brennan, Wife, 36, Rope Spinner, Born in Bolton
Mary Higgins, Wife, 27, Rope Spinner
Mary E Higgins, Niece, 2 Months
Patrick J Martin, Nephew, 8
Others Born in Liverpool, Lancs

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Really sorry - been out all day and just looked at this census record. Mary Higgins, 27 is a niece - but is married.

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So not the right one then if she was married in 1901 as she didn't marry until 1904 :(
On 1911 census.....

21 Leigh St Liverpool
MARTIN, William Head Married M 35 1876 General Labourer County Down Ireland
MARTIN, Robina Wife Married 12 years F 38 1873 Douglas Isle of Man (0 children)
FLOYD, Frederick Arthur Boarder Married M 38 1873 General Labourer Pimberton Near Preston Lancs
FLOYD, Mary Boarder Married 11 years F 37 1874 Liverpool Lancs (5children 3 still living)
FLOYD, Frederick Arthur Boarder Single M 6 1905 Liverpool Lancs
FLOYD, William Albert Boarder Single M 4 1907 Liverpool Lancs
FLOYD, William Francis Boarder Single M 10 1901 Liverpool Lancs
DUFFEY, Daniel Boarder Single M 29 1882 Railway Employee Cattle Shed Cleaner Liverpool Lancs
INGLE, Nannie Visitor Widow F 28 1883 Assisting In Business Retail Dublin Ireland ( 1 child)
INGLE, Christinia Visitor F 7 1904 Liverpool Lancs

It says she has been married 11 years but as I have the certificate I know that can't be true. It also says that she had 5 children, 3 still living so I have no idea when she had the other 2 or wether they were Frederick's or not. As she had William Francis in 1901 and he was registered Higgins (in Manchester) and she didnt marry until 1904 I suspect that he may not have been. Is there any way of finding out about the other 2 children?

Still looking for her in 1901 if anyone can help. Thanks.
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There is this one, 58, Searbauh Rd, Wallasey.

Mary E Higgins.
Age: 26.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1875.
Relation: Servant.
Where born: Liverpool, Lancashire, England.
Civil parish: Liscard;
Ecclesiastical parish: Liscard St Mary.
County/Island: Cheshire.
Country: England.
Registration district: Birkenhead.
Sub-registration district: Wallasey.

1901.
Charles J Casson 42.
Mary A Casson 40.
Gladys M Casson 17.
John S Casson 14.
Chas L Casson 11.
Vera C Casson 3.
Mary E Higgins 26.
Margt Ashton 18.
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Thanks Jimmy Looks like this is the right one
and no children with her. She would have been pregnant with William Francis at the time of the census so she must have lost the other two sometime between 1902 & 1904 inclusive. I've tried searching for Higgins births and deaths but there are lots of births and deaths of both Higgins and Floyd so I don't think I will be able to find out....or maybe she lost them before she was pregnant with William Francis...a losing battle I think :( but thankyou I have all the info for Mary Elizabeth now :)
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