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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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going thru this

so this John is he next door to mary in 1841
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =541693373

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =664991475

are there any bapts for a John Mary and Hannah Hadley pls
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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this has got to be Mary Siviter that marries John Hadley so sister of Hannah Siviter that marries William Adams

1851 Samuel is living with John Hadley and Mary (siviter) his dau must be
and next door to other dau
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =491415907

what does the 1841 say pls for the siviter with William and Hannah in 1841
who is she?
where is Samuel in 1841 pls

1841 Islington, Halesowen
William Adams 60 - Nailor
Hanah Adams 50
Mesias Adams 15
Ann Adams 15
Elizabeth Adams 11
Sarah Adams 9
Samuel Adams 7
Eliza Adams 4
David Adams 4
Bettey Suitor 65 (def Sivitor) - Ind all b in c---------------------------who is this does it say samuel?
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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Northern Lass wrote:Where is Ann Hadley b 1825 and dau Elizabeth who should be aged 3
on 1851


1851. Islington, Halesowen.
Hannah Hadley 58. Head. Unm. Nail maker.
Anne Hadley 25. Dau. unm. Nail maker.
Charles Hadley 22. Son. Unm. Nail maker.
Emma Hadley 16. Dau. Nail maker.
Maria Douglass 28. Lodger. Nail maker.
Roland Badley 7. Grand son
Elizabeth Badley 3. Grand Dau. looks like Hadley on image.
Mary Hadley 64. Lodger. Nail maker.

All born Halesowen.
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Jimmy wrote:
Northern Lass wrote:Where is Ann Hadley b 1825 and dau Elizabeth who should be aged 3
on 1851


1851. Islington, Halesowen.
Hannah Hadley 58. Head. Unm. Nail maker.
Anne Hadley 25. Dau. unm. Nail maker.
Charles Hadley 22. Son. Unm. Nail maker.
Emma Hadley 16. Dau. Nail maker.
Maria Douglass 28. Lodger. Nail maker.
Roland Badley 7. Grand son
Elizabeth Badley 3. Grand Dau. looks like Hadley on image.
Mary Hadley 64. Lodger. Nail maker.

All born Halesowen.


thanks Jimmy

have a look at this lot will you as it connects to you
I am connecting but can always disconnect
putting a note on where I think it should be connected

I think John Mary Hannah Hadley are sibs

that Mary Siviter and Hannah Siviter are sisters daus of Samuel Siviter

then I may be losing it :shock:
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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Im getting confussed i take it we have 2 Sarah Hadleys

One that married Matthias Adams with mother Mary who is the sister to Hannah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=30412803

the other with father John and mother Mary
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=74809448

in 1851 there are Edward and Pheobe Wakefield living with them
1851Islington Halesowen
John Hadley Head 59 Nail Maker Born Illey
Mary Hadley Wife 58 Nail Maker Born Hawn
Edward Wakefield Lodger Mar 33 Bricklayer Born Halesowen
Phoebe Wakefield Wife of Lodger Mar 33 Nail Mkaer Born Halesowen
William Wakefield Son of Lodger 13 Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Edward Wakefield Lodger 10 Nail Maker Born Halesowen
Anne Wakefield Lodger 5 Scholar Born Halesowen
Josephus Wakefield Lodger 4 Born Halesowen
Elizabeth Wakefield 1 Born Halesowen
Samuel Liveter Lodger Widr 80 Pauper Nail Maker Born Hawn

I think Phoebe is their daughter
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1837

WAKEFIELD Edward HADLEY Phebe Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/001/42

Then there is John Hadley and Mary Coley that Markcdodd mentions here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =432250104
He says Matthias middle name is Josiah
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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Yes to all that that is how I say it

who says middle name of Matthias is Josiah

where does it say that

I had to leave this if you fancy connectin etc
mary Hadley is Mary ace at moment

I can sort it tomoz if you like
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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by MarkCDodd » Mon May 09, 2011 9:27 am

Acording to my records, This Sarah Hadley married a Matthias Josiah Adams on the 27th Spetember 1845 a St John the Baptist in Halesowen.

Her parents are John Hadley born 1793 in Illey, Worcestershire and Mary Coley born abt 1798 in Halesowen.

Parents married 11th September 1820 at St John The Baptist.

Sarah was born abt 1820 and baptised 14th May 1820 at St John The Baptist.

Sarah was still alive in Lancashire in 1901 and Matthias died in 1873 in Halesowen.

They had ten children but I have only got basic information as this was not one of my Halesowen Hadley lines.

I thought Sarah has two siblings, Ann born 1825 and Sanuel born 1831.

I was going to investigte the Sivitor/Siviter line to see if they hooked up to mine....
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Not sure where the middle name has been seen then
cos marriage

27 Sep 1845 St John The Baptist Halesowen
Matthias ADAMS O B Nailer Borough Father William Adams Nailer
Sarah HADLEY 20 S Nailer Borough Father (Blank) -
After Banns
The Marks Of Both
Wit; William Hill X Mary Hadley X


and bapt
IGI-MESSIAH ADAMS Christening: 15 JUN 1823 Halesowen, Worcester, Parents: Father: WILLIAM ADAMS Mother: HANNAH Extracted

does it say anything in the transcripts Kdw you got IGI may have missed Josiah off
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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Northern Lass wrote:this has got to be Mary Siviter that marries John Hadley so sister of Hannah Siviter that marries William Adams

1851 Samuel is living with John Hadley and Mary (siviter) his dau must be
and next door to other dau
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =491415907

what does the 1841 say pls for the siviter with William and Hannah in 1841
who is she?
where is Samuel in 1841 pls

1841 Islington, Halesowen
William Adams 60 - Nailor
Hanah Adams 50
Mesias Adams 15
Ann Adams 15
Elizabeth Adams 11
Sarah Adams 9
Samuel Adams 7
Eliza Adams 4
David Adams 4
Bettey Suitor 65 (def Sivitor) - Ind all b in c---------------------------who is this does it say samuel?


This could be Betty Sivitor here, her age on BCC is estimated, she could be older:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ter-Family
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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Matthias Josiah Adams is not the bloke from Halesowen.

Because they were not my Hadley line it was only a quick set of notes I had.

There is a Matthias Josiah Adams but he was living in Stanhope, Durham in 1828

Youe Matthias Adams has no middle name and died in 1873 like I had in my notes.

Name: Mesiath Adams
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1822
Year of Registration: 1873
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at Death: 51
District: Stourbridge
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, West Midlands, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 88

I still think there may be a connection to my Siviter line but I will wait for them to appear on BCC as this is too confusing for me....
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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anyone got the halesowen transcripts pls for these 2 mother is Hannah Hadley on both

just wondering why 2 bapts

EMMA HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 19 SEP 1835 Halesowen, Worcester, England

2. EMMA HADLEY - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 25 JUN 1837 Halesowen, Worcester, England
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and anyone the trans for this pls

ANN HADLEY Christening: 17 OCT 1824 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: HANNAH HADLEY Extracted
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Re: Sarah Hadley................NL/KDW to add and sort

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People sometimes had a private baptism, especially if it was soon after birth and they were doubtfull that the child would live.

They would then have a public baptism when child and mother are healthy.

I have quite a few with two baptisms.
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transcript for this pls anyone

MARIA HADLEY
Christening: 08 SEP 1822 Halesowen, Worcester,
Parents:
Mother: HANNAH HADLEY Extracted

need the Charles one too son of Hannah
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =552386075

for the moment linked John Hadley / Mary Hadley / Hannah as sibs

any bapts for them all pls
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I think Hannah Hadley and Mary are sisters

but unsure of John Hadley as a brother
I have just connected for the moment while we look at it
without more evidence will have to unconnect John

on the 1841 living near John Hadley are

Benjamin Siviter aged 30 with wife Margaret
and
Joseph Siviter b abt 1795 with wife Elizabeth

do they link to Mary siviter wife of John Hadley
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