*Archive* Jane Rice - abt 1873, Liverpool

[yerffej]

Hi Could you possibly look up Jane Rice in 1901 & 1911 please

43 Holborn St, Liverpool.

John Rice 39. Dock labourer.
Mary Rice 38.
Jane Rice 14.
John Rice 11

Thankyou

[Loakesy]

1901

Address 43 Holborn Street

John Rice Head 49 abt 1852 Male Liverpool Lancashire England (Occ- Navvy)
Mary Rice Wife 49 abt 1852 Female Liverpool Lancashire England
John Rice Son 21 abt 1880 Male Liverpool Lancashire England (Occ- Navvy)

[yerffej]

Oh no Where did Jane go???
I know she married a Thomas Kirk in 1910 so would be Jane Kirk in 1911 and living with him

[Loakesy]

I tried looking for Jane Rice, but Ancestry throws up over 1000 respondants with a DOB of 1873+/-2. Was she definately born in Liverpool?

She may have been staying with a relative, working as a servant...

Unless I'm doing something really stupid, Ancestry doesn't have a great deal of access to 1911!

[Maths girl]

I tried looking for Jane Rice, but Ancestry throws up over 1000 respondants with a DOB of 1873+/-2. Was she definately born in Liverpool?

She may have been staying with a relative, working as a servant...

Unless I'm doing something really stupid, Ancestry doesn't have a great deal of access to 1911!

Ancestry hasn't got full details of 1911 on yet -- you need FMP for full access -- Ancestry is aiming to have it on later this year I think!

[Loakesy]

Ancestry hasn't got full details of 1911 on yet -- you need FMP for full access -- Ancestry is aiming to have it on later this year I think!

Phew! It's not just me then!!!

[yerffej]

Yes she was definately born Liverpool as I have the
1881 Census:
John RICE Head M Male 28 Liverpool Labourer
Mary RICE Wife M Female 27 Liverpool
Thomas RICE Brother U Male 19 Liverpool Labourer
Jane RICE Daur Female 4 Liverpool
John RICE Son Male 1 Liverpool
William COLEMAN Brother In Law M Male 22 Liverpool Labourer
Jane COLEMAN Sister M Female 25 Liverpool
Sarah COLEMAN Daur (Niece) Female 2 Liverpool
William COLEMAN Son (Nephew) Male 1 m Liverpool

4C 1H Low Wood St.
West Derby, Lancashire.

What a shame about the 1911 I thought it may have shed some light

[snoopysue]

They aren't at 43 Holborn Street in 1911.

[snoopysue]

There doesn't seem to be anything definate, I'll list what I can find:

RICE, John Head Married M 57 1854 Board Trade Inspector Nanehad St Class Plymouth Devon
RICE, John R Son Single M 25 1886 Clerk In Cunard Shipping Office Hull Yorks
RICE, Annie H Wife Married 27 years F 56 1855 Hull Yorks
CARR, Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 Household Domestic General Galway Resident Hire

Wife doesn't match up though!

[snoopysue]

36 Low Wood St Liverpool

RICE, John Husband Married M 60 1851 Building Material Works Liverpool Lancs
RICE, Sarah Ann Wife Married 3 years F 41 1870 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Ellen Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Servant General Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Charles William Son Single M 14 1897 Aprentice To Stone Manson Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Henry Joseph Son M 12 1899 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Thomas George Son M 10 1901 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Gertrude Daughter F 7 1904 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Thomas Son M 2 1909 Liverpool Lancs
BYRNES, Michael Boarder Single M 53 1858 Dock Labourer Liverpool Lancs

Again wife doesn't match, but if Mary had died he could have remarried.
On image it has him as having 6 children still living and 2 dead.
Sarah Ann has 5 born but only 1 still living and none dead - who are those kids on the census then? It doesn't make sense!!

[Maths girl]

Possible for Jane 1901

1901 48, Serpentine Road, Liscard
CURMEN, John Head Married M 48 1853 Ship Guilder Liverpool Lancashire
CURMEN, Edith Wife Married F 41 1860 Liverpool Lancashire
RICE, Jane Servant Single F 25 1876 Genl Serv Domestic Liverpool Lancashire

[Loakesy]

Looks promising!

[Maths girl]

Do you have that marriage to Thomas 1910 or are you going from an index?

This is the most promising Jane Kirk I can find but wrong husband

1911 51 Belper St Garston
KIRK, Andrew Head Married M 32 1879 Ship Boiler Maker And Rivetter Liverpool Lancs
KIRK, Jane Wife Married 6 years F 34 1877 Liverpool Lancs
KIRK, Geoffrey Son Married M 5 1906 Garston Lancs
KIRK, Leslie Son M 3 1908 Garston Lancs

[Maths girl]

or did you mistype?

1911 39 Baines Place Everton Liverpool
KIRK, Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Joiner Kirkcudbright Shire Resident
KIRK, Jane Wife Married 9 years F 34 1877 Lancashire Bootle
KIRK, Alexander Son M 7 1904 School Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, William Henry Son M 6 1905 School Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1907 Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, Thomas Son M 2 1909 Lancashire Liverpool

[Jimmy]

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910,
RICE Jane. KIRK Thomas E. West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended. Liverpool REG_WD/264/141.

Probably told a porkie on census.

Name missing on Freebmd.
Marriages Dec 1910.
Jones Robert. W. Derby. 8b. 835.
Kirk Thomas E. W.Derby. 8b. 835.
Morris Gertrude A. W Derby 8b. 835.
Potts Malcolm. W Derby. 8b. 835.
Wilson Emilia. W.Derby. 8b. 835.