*ARC TBC* -- help pls - HANSON

Completed discussions and topics. All topics are locked on archive. Please contact a forum moderator if you'd like a thread reactivated.

Moderators: grangers14, admin, BC Wench

Locked
User avatar
amy
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:08 am
Primary Surname Interests: DAVIES DUNN THOMPSON OWEN MEESE HOLLOWAY POLKINHORN
Primary Geographical Research Areas: ENGLAND WALES IRELAND

*ARC TBC* -- help pls - HANSON

Post by amy »

I am wondering if anyone has an advice on how to pursue my search about the following:

My great-great grandmother Amelia Eliza Hanson was born in Perozpore, India on 9th Nov 1847. Her parents were Henry Hanson (at the time a sergeant in the Fifty Third Regiment of Infantry with the British Army) and Sarah... My 'brickwall' is finding out who Sarah was. As she has a British name I am assuming that she is NOT Indian and that Amelia's parents were married in England before being stationed in India with the army.

After a LONG search I finally found a index of birth registration for Amelia which arrived in the mail today. I hoped and hoped that it would have her mother's maiden name, but alas no luck. Parents are listed as Henry and Sarah Hanson.

I have tried searching BMD records for Henry and Sarahs marriage but I don't know when it was exactly. I searched from the record start date in 1837 to Amelia's birth in 1847 and got about 8 results but I dont know how to reduce the number of matches and I cant afford to order all of the certificates to try and match it. I am guessing it is one of the 1845 entries, perhaps the Yorkshire one, but im not prepared to order certs without a better idea at this stage... maybe in the future.

This is what else I already know about the family

Henry was born abt 1822 in Doncaster, Yorkshire. He was a sergeant in the British army and is listed later as a Yeoman Warder at the Tower of London on Amelia's marriage certificate. The 1861 and 1871 census has him remarried to a lady named Catherine who was blind. They had 2 more children, one born in the East Indies like Amelia but 10 years later and one born after that in England.

Sarah: absolutely nothing, no dob, dod, anything, just her first name from Amelia's birth and marriage certificates.

Amelia: Married in 1873 in Gloustershire to Alfred Polkinhorn. Marriage cert states her place of residence as the Tower of London (I assume her father had lodgings there with his family as he was working there, rather than her being a prisoner! :P ) She died in 1916 in Canada (this lady got around) of cancer of the liver. The informant for her death registry listed mother and father as unknown.

Any suggestions? I also haven't been able to find anything on Henry's parents so maybe if someone has access to parish registers for Doncaster, Yorkshire his birth entry might have leads. From memory I tried to get Henry's military records but had no luck with this either. I cant remember if it was because the records had been destroyed or just that I needed to go to London to look at them.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Amy from Oz
FarSide
Posts: 3687
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:58 am

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by FarSide »

Wonder if James & Harriet or even Fanny are somehow related
1861
5 Gt Russel Street, Birmingham
James Mould 52 - Pawn broker - b Birmingham
Harriet Mould 51 - b Cheshire Chester
Amelia E Hanson 13 - Boarder - b East Indies British Subject, Foingpour
Fanny Wilson 15 - Visitor - b Chickester, Sussex

Extracted
JAMES MOULD
Marriages:
Spouse: HARRIET MILE
Marriage: 25 DEC 1845 Saint Thomas, Portsmouth, Hampshire
I live in my own little world. But it's ok....they know me here!
FarSide
Posts: 3687
Joined: Thu Oct 02, 2008 1:58 am

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by FarSide »

Have you found Henry on the 41?
I live in my own little world. But it's ok....they know me here!
User avatar
MarkCDodd
Posts: 4157
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:55 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Homer, Dodd, Murphy, Cutler, Ford
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by MarkCDodd »

Did you order all the GRO Regimental Birth Certificates. (Army Births and Baptism AB91)

Three were three issued. One or more will be baptism/christening records.

They are

Regimental Birth HANSON AMELIA 53rd Ferozepore 1847 Vol:18 Page:35
Regimental Birth HANSON AMELIA 53rd Ferozepore 1847 Vol:825 Page:9
Regimental Birth HANSON AMELIA E 53rd Ferozepore 1847 Vol:18 Page:32


Are these also Henry's?

Regimental Birth HANSON ERNEST M 53rd Aldershot 1862 Vol:826 Page:6
Regimental Birth HANSON HENRY K 53rd Calcutta 1856 Vol:826 Page:2
Regimental Birth HANSON WILLIAM H 53rd Rawalpindee 1851 Vol:18 Page:51
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
User avatar
MarkCDodd
Posts: 4157
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:55 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Homer, Dodd, Murphy, Cutler, Ford
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by MarkCDodd »

Any idea what religion Henry was?

There are a few baptism entries in the Non Conformist registers.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
User avatar
amy
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:08 am
Primary Surname Interests: DAVIES DUNN THOMPSON OWEN MEESE HOLLOWAY POLKINHORN
Primary Geographical Research Areas: ENGLAND WALES IRELAND

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by amy »

Thanks for the replies.

I just had a quick look for Henry on the 1841 census but there are 12 returns and no way to work out which one he was because I dont know any of his relatives before he was married. The only clue is that he was born in Yorkshire but that is still 6 or so entrys. They just cant make it easy for us can they :P

I didnt see those other army registrations. I will have to look into that more.

Not sure about religion but that would probably be on his military records if there was some way to access them. I have one of Amelia's son's military records which states the son was Church of England but thats the best lead I have.
peterd
Posts: 15669
Joined: Mon Sep 29, 2008 12:33 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Dorricott. Watterson. Evans. Bracegirdle. Quinn. Mcloughlin
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Shropshire. Cheshire. Lancashire. Black Country. Co Durham
Location: co durham
Contact:

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by peterd »

amy wrote:Thanks for the replies.

I just had a quick look for Henry on the 1841 census but there are 12 returns and no way to work out which one he was because I dont know any of his relatives before he was married. The only clue is that he was born in Yorkshire but that is still 6 or so entrys. They just cant make it easy for us can they :P

I didnt see those other army registrations. I will have to look into that more.

Not sure about religion but that would probably be on his military records if there was some way to access them. I have one of Amelia's son's military records which states the son was Church of England but thats the best lead I have.


The 1861 and 1871 census has him remarried to a lady named Catherine who was blind. They had 2 more children, one born in the East Indies like Amelia but 10 years later and one born after that in England.


have you this marriage cert?

amy who were the witnesses on his marriage cert ?

amelia mother maiden name not on birth cert ?
A person should have an opinion on everything, It becomes tact whether you reveal that opinion or not.

http://www.deneview.co.uk/
User avatar
amy
Posts: 41
Joined: Thu Jul 23, 2009 10:08 am
Primary Surname Interests: DAVIES DUNN THOMPSON OWEN MEESE HOLLOWAY POLKINHORN
Primary Geographical Research Areas: ENGLAND WALES IRELAND

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by amy »

Hi Peter,

I dont have either of the marriage certs because I dont have dates of marriage so very hard to search for them, and no Amelia's mothers maiden name isn't on the birth certificate, it just states Henry and Sarah Hanson (it is an army registration from India so missing some information).
User avatar
MarkCDodd
Posts: 4157
Joined: Mon Aug 24, 2009 12:55 pm
Primary Surname Interests: Homer, Dodd, Murphy, Cutler, Ford
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Worcestershire, Yorkshire

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by MarkCDodd »

That is why it is worth getting the other certificates. When they issue more than one yuo can be almost 100% certain that one of them will be the baptism record.
Black Holes happen when God divides by zero.
User avatar
Antie Em
Posts: 4309
Joined: Thu Oct 07, 2010 6:17 am
Primary Surname Interests: Salt, Jones, Humphries, Riley, Barklam/Bartlam, Shilvock, Guest
Primary Geographical Research Areas: Halesowen, Dudley, Clent, Tipton, Rowley Regis, Kingswinford, Wall Heath
Contact:

Re: help pls - HANSON

Post by Antie Em »

Is this still a Brickwall, or have you solved it?

Unless otherwise advised this will be moved to the Brickwalls Archived section
within 24 hours
There's no place like home ......
Locked

Return to “Archived Brick Wall Posts”