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*Archive?* Jellemer??

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Hi folks,
In 1901:
Priscilla Sheridan, born Staffordshire, the head of the house, is Married but her husband is not with her, she has her children with her..
Alice age 8
Lily age 4 All children have surname Sheridan born Staffordshire
Thomas age 2

They are living at 25 Sparrow Street, Smallthorne, Leek Staffordshire. They are 3 lodgers in the house. William Tayler, 37, Joseph Grainger, 40 and John Barratt, 60.

in 1911:
Priscilla is HOH, age 49 and a widow, again she has her 3 children with her as above, and now 3 different lodgers. John Malpass 47, Richard Gould 48, and Charles Frederick Jones age 30.
Living at 27 Sparrow Street, Smallthorne.

Have searched BMD for a surname Sheridan/forename Priscilla marriage and the only likely hit is:
Mar 1900 Stoke T
Thomas Sheridan
Priscilla Jellemer.

An All types search on BMD produces no other hits for Jellemer.
A pre 1901 census search produces no Jellemer hits, at least not with my provider.

I assume from Marriage Date, if its correct, that this is not Priscilla's first Marriage and that the children were not originally Sheridan.

4 of the 6 boarders surnames appear in my tree, coincidence?

If anyone could shed some light I would be most grateful :P
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There is a birth for Priscilla Jellyman - 1864 in Penkridge, Staffordshire
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Marriage for Priscilla Jelliman to James Winchurch - Sept Qtr 1885 - Nottingham District

1891 : 23 Graham Street, Litchurch, Derbys
James Winchurch, Head, 34, Labourer in Iron Works, Born Dudley, Worcs
Priscilla Winchurch, Wife, 28, Born Cannock, Staffs
Clara Winchurch, Daur, 4, Born Derbys
Sarah Winchurch, Daur, 1, Born Dudley, Worcs
William Winchurch, Brother, 27, Labourer in Ironworks, Born Dudley

1901 : 157 Dorset Street, Leicester
James Winchurch, Head, Married, 39, Crane Drive, Born in Dudley
Elizabeth Towers, Housekeeper, 30, Born in Northants
Sarah A Winchurch Daur, 11, Born in Cannock
Beatrice Winchurch, Daur, 2, Born in Leicester

James is still married, but not to Elizabeth

Do you think they split up ?
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1881.
Mary An JELLEYMAN Head U Female 32 Cannock, Stafford, England Farm Servant (Ag Lab)
Mary An JELLEYMAN Daur Female 15 Hatherton, Stafford, England Farm Servant (Ag Lab)
William JELLEYMAN Son Male 13 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Labourer On Farm (Ag Lab)
Frank JELLEYMAN Son Male 7 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Scholar
Alfred JELLEYMAN Son Male 5 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Scholar
Percilla JELLEYMAN Sister Daur U Female 17 Hatherton, Stafford, England Farm Servant

45 Red Lane.
Cheslyn Hay, Stafford.
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Marriages Sep 1885.
JELLIMAN Priscilla. Nottingham. 7b. 452.
STANLEY Louisa. Nottingham. 7b. 452.
Turner William Clark. Nottingham. 7b. 452.
Winchurch James. Nottingham. 7b. 452.
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Priscilla Jellyman.
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Jun 1867.
Baptism/Christening Place: St. Peters, Wolverhampton, Stafford.
Father's Name: Charles Jellyman.
Mother's Name: Sarah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C01836-5.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040896.
Reference Number: item 2 p 11.

9 Jun 1867.
JELLYMAN Priscilla dau.of Charles & Sarah. Calf Heath. Labourer. C.Gamle.

1871. Calf Heath, Hatherton, Staffordshire.
Charles Sillyman 52. Farmer Labourer. Coloy, Gloucestershire.
Sarah Sillyman 44. Wedes Mill, Staffordshire.
Charles Sillyman 12. Calf Heath. Staffordshire.
Cecie Sillyman 10. Calf Heath. Staffordshire.
Precilla Sillyman 8. Calf Heath. Staffordshire.
Lachens Sillyman 4. Calf Heath. Staffordshire.
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Jimmy wrote:1881.
Mary An JELLEYMAN Head U Female 32 Cannock, Stafford, England Farm Servant (Ag Lab)
Mary An JELLEYMAN Daur Female 15 Hatherton, Stafford, England Farm Servant (Ag Lab)
William JELLEYMAN Son Male 13 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Labourer On Farm (Ag Lab)
Frank JELLEYMAN Son Male 7 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Scholar
Alfred JELLEYMAN Son Male 5 Cheslyn Hay, Stafford, England Scholar
Percilla JELLEYMAN Sister Daur U Female 17 Hatherton, Stafford, England Farm Servant

45 Red Lane.
Cheslyn Hay, Stafford.


1851. Cannock.
Charles Jelleman 32. Labourer. Coaley, Gloucestershire.
Sarah Jelleman 26.
Mary Ann Jelleman 3. Dau.
Emma Jelleman 1. Dau.

Others born Cannock.
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ok?? now i'm confused lol

thanks guys..looking like a coincidence on my family names then..

She married James and then when married Sheridan used her maiden name? Would she have used maiden name because she was legally still Winchurch? If she was married in 01 wheres hub? and what names were the children given originally?? :P
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Possible for 2 of them.
Births Sep 1893.
SHERIDAN Alice. Leek. 6b. 315.

Births Jun 1897.
Sheridan Lily. Stoke T. 6b. 226.
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No 3,
Births Sep 1898.
Sheredon Thomas Henry. Leek. 6b. 314.
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Deaths Dec 1902.
Sheridan Thomas. 30. Wolverhampton. 6b. 381.
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kdp wrote:ok?? now i'm confused lol

thanks guys..looking like a coincidence on my family names then..

She married James and then when married Sheridan used her maiden name? Would she have used maiden name because she was legally still Winchurch? If she was married in 01 wheres hub? and what names were the children given originally?? :P



1901 : 157 Dorset Street, Leicester
James Winchurch, Head, Married, 39, Crane Drive, Born in Dudley
Elizabeth Towers, Housekeeper, 30, Born in Northants
Sarah A Winchurch Daur, 11, Born in Cannock
Beatrice Winchurch, Daur, 2, Born in Leicester

Suppose she could have left him - I wonder if Beatrice is her's or the housekeepers :o
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so she had kids with him and married after??? :? :?

she had first sheridan child in 93?
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It wouldn't be the first time.
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The only one I can see is,
Sarah Ann Winchurch.
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Apr 1890.
Baptism/Christening Place: Cannock, Stafford.
Father's Name: James Winchurch.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I01089-3.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 6114801.
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