*Archived * -Eli Willetts b abt 1820-

[FarSide]

Poss, could be coincidence one of the kids is called Eli
1871
22 Bowling Green, Dudley
Thomas Johnson 43 - nailmaker
Elizabeth Johnson 42
Eli Johnson 20
Luke Johnson 17
Sarah Ann Johnson 14
Simeon Johnson 9
Albert Johnson 6
Ellen Johnson 3
Sarah Johnson 79 - Boarder - Widow
George Johnson 23
Joseph Willetts 26 - nephew - b New Town
William Crock 17 - nephew
others b Bowling Green

[Northern Lass]

just adding this next to it

1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner
Thomas Willets 14
all b Rowley

[Northern Lass]

I think there is deffo something here...

I think Thomas Willetts here is the son of Eli Willetts

So who is that nephew!
and what relation is Thomas on the 1861 does it say?

and nephew to whom? presume head so Thomas

So did his sister or brother marry a Willetts?

And that would be hopefully the sib of Eli?

[Northern Lass]

Still not getting this but!!

WILLIAM JOHNSON Spouse: SARAH WILLETTS
Marriage: 15 MAY 1826 Clent, Worcester, Extracted

and

THOMAS JOHNSON Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: WILLM. JOHNSON Mother: SARAH

Extracted

[Northern Lass]

What do you think about this one.. I see who I think maybe this Hannah on the 51 a Widow but no Thomas

Submitted
ELI ZEHI WILLETTS
Spouse: HANNAH OR MRS WILLETTS
Marriage: About 1830 Dudley

this now looks quite good


ELI ZEHI WILLETTS Birth: About 1805 Of Dudley,Worscestershire,
Record sub

are Eli and Sarah bro and sis....and so thomas calls one of his kids after his uncle Eli?

[Northern Lass]

Had a look at this lot on the 1861
Sarah is the grandma to Joseph and Thomas-they are down in her hsehold as G.sons
and then Joseph in 1871 is nephew To thomas Johnson.

So has to be one of Sarahs daus married a Willetts ....or...one of her sons had children by a Willetts but that womans was unmarried

but Thomas Willetts father is an Eli Willetts
So if this is our Thomas Willetts in 1861 has to be a dau of Sarah Johnson who married a Willetts.

1851 as a lodger with sarah is an unmarried Elizabeth Willetts aged 15
Thomas Johnson age 23 and wife Elizabeth are living with Sarah with some kids.

So who is that Elizabeth Willetts?

1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner-g.son
Thomas Willets 14 G.son
all b Rowley

[peterd]

just adding this next to it

1861
55
Bowling Green, Dudley
Sarah Johnson 68 - Widow
Joseph Willets 16 - Miner
Thomas Willets 14
all b Rowley

poss marriage ?

Sarah Willitts
Birth: About 1791 Of Rowley,Regis, , Stafford,

Spouse: Samuel Johnson
Marriage: 09 APR 1812 Rowley,Regis, , Stafford,

[Northern Lass]

hmm not sure on that marriage as this lot fits that thomas son that is with sarah...
parents Wm Johnson and Sarah Willetts

WILLIAM JOHNSON Spouse: SARAH WILLETTS
Marriage: 15 MAY 1826 Clent, Worcester, Extracted

and

THOMAS JOHNSON Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: WILLM. JOHNSON Mother: SARAH
Extrac

[peterd]

hmm not sure on that marriage as this lot fits that thomas son that is with sarah...
parents Wm Johnson and Sarah Willetts

WILLIAM JOHNSON Spouse: SARAH WILLETTS
Marriage: 15 MAY 1826 Clent, Worcester, Extracted

and

THOMAS JOHNSON Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: WILLM. JOHNSON Mother: SARAH
Extrac

sarah would be about 33 when married if she 68 in 61 and at 33 proberly married previous so maide name wouldnt be willetts ?

[peterd]

thomas siblings 2 christend same day


ELIZTH. JOHNSON
Christening: 18 FEB 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

PHILLIS JOHNSON
Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

MARY JOHNSON
Christening: 08 JUL 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

JOSEPH JOHNSON
Birth: 25 DEC 1827
Christening: 06 JAN 1828 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

HANNAH JOHNSON
Birth: 19 SEP 1831
Christening: 02 OCT 1831 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

WILLIAM JOHNSON
Christening: 21 NOV 1830 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,

[Northern Lass]

I have looked up that marriage in the Clent book and Sarah Willetts is a Spinster so she wasnt married before.

In 1841 William is with Sarah and Thomas and a James aged 20.

[peterd]

I have looked up that marriage in the Clent book and Sarah Willetts is a Spinster so she wasnt married before.

In 1841 William is with Sarah and Thomas and a James aged 20.

so where the rest of the siblings in 1841

as mary and phillis were christend the same day as thomas ?

[FarSide]

I've added the Johnson's in this post to BCC, can't quite see the connection for the grandkids named Willetts, but I haven't finished yet..

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =139084008

Marriage of daug Phillis, she was christened with 3 other sibs on 8 Jul 1827
1840
JOHNSON Phillis BRETTLE Joseph Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/003/454

[Northern Lass]

rite this lot is driving me bonkers!

Cant find an Eli!
Where is he?
Where is a marriage?
Is that his marriage to a Hannah in 1834?
Eli Zephi Willetts that FS found?
lots of kids on IGI but no Thomas!

Cant see Thomas pre 1861....well there was one....needs looking at...
in 1851 ...forget where now
a Harriet Willetts b 1819
Joseph Willetts age 6 and
Thomas Willetts age 4
Could that be our Thomas?
think marriage might have been a Charles but no hubby in 1851 she is widowed...
Farside have a look will you see what you think....and anyone else..

nice one FS putting it on at least we can see it better like that..

So I am looking up that Phillis marriage to cf father is a William

this is the marriage for William and Sarah .....and if her father isnt William it is back to the drawing board with who Sarah married...

1826 15 May Clent
William X Johnson of the parish of Rowley Regis widr and
Sarah X Willetts Spinster
by banns
Wit Thomas Willetts and Sarah Willetts

Just had a thought
on the 1841 that James I think is from a previous marriage!

JAMES JOHNSON Christening: 24 NOV 1816 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: WILLM. JOHNSON
Mother: ELIZTH.
Extracted

So ..... Thomas would still be G.son but a step g. son....if perhaps a dau of Wm and Eliz married an Eli Willetts.
Or is Eli merely Sarahs son


Oh and who is that Elizabeth Willetts on the 1851 lodger!
I think she belongs to this Harriett ....look...

ELIZABETH WILLETTS
Christening: 27 JAN 1833 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Father: DAVID WILLETTS
Mother: HARRIOTT

Extracted

so who is David! is he part of this family?
aggghhh!

[dianel]

Have put many of the Willetts from Bowling Green/Dudley Wood that I could connect into a single family on BC here:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tribe/browse?userid=bcconnections&view=0&pid=8703&rand=229145589

but I still couldn't find an appropriate Eli Willetts. I feel he just HAS to be connected to these folks somehow.