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Finally managed to access my tree:

Elizabeth Keen b1821 d1868
Daughter Ellen b1855
Daughter Sarah b1857

Emma Hollies b1844 d1877
Son Benj b1870
Son Mark b1873

Mary Dawes (Davies?) b1837 d 1896
No children with william/

Hope this makes sense

Steve

Hi NL, sorry for the slow response but I've been a little busy. I do have Marks birth certificate, but not the 1873 Mark, I have his son (my Gfather) 1899. My supposition on the three possible marriages were only based on census and marriage records, not unfortunately certification. I traced William...

NL, the date I have (although unconfirmed) is 1822, born Upton Warren Worcs. I also posted the info below on the brick wall you so kindly helped me with: I have the 1881 info where William is married to Mary who I believe to be Mary Dawes (wife number 3), I believe his first wife was Elizabeth Keen ...

Interesting, I have the 1881 info where William is married to Mary who I believe to be Mary Dawes (wife number 3), I believe his first wife was Elizabeth Keen (1821-1868) who is the mother of Ellen and Sarah (b 1855 and 1857 respectively). I believe it is Emma Hollis 1844 - 1877 (wife number 2) that...

As far as I can make out, Marks Father (William) was born abt 1822 in Upton Warren, I'm unsure as to his mother as so far I've only managed to narrow it down to one of three possible women; I have a feeling at this point that William was actually married three times.

Steve

The details from the certificate are: 1902 Marriage Solomnized at Parish Church in the Parish of Tipton in the County of Stafford. Date: 25th December 1902 Mark Tolley age 29 Bachelor Boatman Horsley Heath Sarah Brookes age 26 Spinster 32 Ball Fields Horsley Heath Fathers: William Tolley Railway Ser...

The ordered marriage certificate has arrived, Sarah's father was as mentioned earlier Thomas Brooker who, at the time of the wedding (25/12/1902) was deceased. He was recorded as an "ironworker" on the certificate, what did come as surprise to me was my GGGrandfather was listed as a "...

I ordered the certificate today, had to go to the GRO as I couldn't pay at Dudley; I don't think their system works at the weekend. I will post the info when it arrives.

Steve

That's great NL, I was on the Sandwell Archives, I'll try the other routes tonight when I get home.

Steve

I'm trying to request a certificate on line, however it's asking for the date of marriage and all I have is December 1902. Anyone have a suggestion?

Steve

Will do NL, it will take a while as I'm very busy at present but I will get round to it.

Steve

Thanks Gardener, I can confirm the Ballfields connection as we lived there until I was 6 and my GFather (Mark b1899) lived next door to us. Are we sure of the Thomas and Eliza Brookes are the right one's for Sarah? I do hope so as I've had a hewadache all afternoon. Many thanks to all that bothered ...

If there's one thing I've learned about geaneology, it's that it is really confusing at times. This is particularly evident the further back you go. I first joined this board a couple of years ago, I'm not a very active poster (just check my post per day ratio) but I do pop on every so often when ti...

I've ordered the birth certificate for Mark but not received it yet, I'm pretty much a novice at this, can you get marriage certificates? If so Sarah's parents should be on there.

Steve

To throw a couple of spanners into the works, in the 1901 census there is a Sarah Ann Brookes as a domestic in West Bromwich, and in the 1891 census theres one in the Himley area of Dudley. I can recall parts of a conversation with my mom about someone on my fathers side being a domestic servant, bu...