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				James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Wed Aug 17, 2011 12:52 pm
				by Northern Lass
				Can we find the couple pls on 1861 
James Willetts b abt 1814 father is a JOhn 
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =260895135Elizabeths father is Thomas 
witness' JOhn and Selina Horton ...Selina is sister
1846
BILLINGHAM Elizabeth MANSELL Thomas Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/110 
can we find James and Elizabeth on 1861 
I dont think it is the one with son Alfred and Joseph son 
as James is unmarried and at home with parents on 1851
also where is Elizabeth and Thomas Mansell in 1851 pls
 
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts marries Elizabeth Mansell nee billingham
				Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 7:36 am
				by kdw
				1851 Cradley Heath Rowley Regis
Samuel Wright Head Mar 25 Miner Born Dudley
Ann Wright Wife Mar 24  Chain Maker Born Wordsley
Jane Wright Daur 4 
Samuel Wright 2 Scholar Born Rowley
Abraham Wright Son 5 MO Born Rowley 
Elizabeth Mansell Lodger Mar 29 Trace Maker Born Rowley
Joseph Mansell Son 6 Scholar Born Rowley
Thomas Mansell Son 2  Scholar Born Rowley
1861  Foxoak Rowley Regis
James Willetts Head Mar 49 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Elizabeth Willetts Wife Mar 39 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Joseph Willetts Son 17 Chain Maker Born Rowley
Thomas Willetts Son 12 Scholar Born Rowley
Benjamin Willetts Son 6 Scholar Born Rowley
Alfred Willetts Son 4 Scholar Born Rowley 
?? 1871 Foxoak Rowley Regis
James Willetts Head Mar 49 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Willetts Wife 46 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Benjamin Willetts Son 14 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Alfred Willetts Son 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts marries Elizabeth Mansell nee billingham
				Posted: Fri Aug 19, 2011 12:09 pm
				by Northern Lass
				so it is that one then
Joseph and Thomas Mansell take the Willetts name
flagging for help adding this pls 
need to keep Joseph and Thomas as Mansell in template
when does Thomas Mansell die?
do we have a death
			 
			
					
				Re: *Help addingto BCC pls * -James Willetts +Elizabeth Mans
				Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 3:51 pm
				by Annie
				I will add them Northern Lass.
Annie
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell----Annie adding
				Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:41 pm
				by Annie
				Thomas & Joseph are Thomas Mansells son's, what about Benjamin  & Alfred they were born before El;izabeth Marr James Willetts, founs these births but still not sure about those two,
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1849
MANSELL Thomas
Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office RR/13/3
 
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1846
MANSELL  Joseph
West Bromwich North East  Sandwell Register Office WBNE/10/353
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1855
MANSELL  Benjamin W
Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office  RR/21/125
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1857
MANSELL  Alfred
Rowley Regis Sandwell Register Office  RR/25/223
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1857
WILLETTS Alfred
Rowley Regis  Sandwell Register Office  RR/24/167
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1857
WILLETTS  Benjamin
Rowley Regis  Sandwell Register Office  RR/24/405
Annie
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell----Annie adding
				Posted: Mon Aug 22, 2011 8:57 pm
				by Annie
				Added here Northern Lass, if you want Benjamin & Alfred changing to Mansell  let me know,
Elizabeth
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =905395189James Willetts
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =704319645Annie
 
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell----Annie adding
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 8:24 am
				by Northern Lass
				Thanks Annie I have changed Benjamin to Mansell
not sure on alfred 
Can we find Alfred pls on 1881
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:53 am
				by Annie
				Can'f find a Alfred Mansell in the Staffordshire area,
??? 1881   9, Wellington St, Rowley Regis  
WILLETTS, Alfred Head Married  M 24 1857 Gun Barrel Grinder
 Rowley Regis  Staff 
WILLETTS, Alice Wife Married  F 27 1854 
 Rowley Regis  Staff 
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1880
WILLETTS Alfred   RAYBOULD  Alice
Dudley, St Andrew  Dudley Register Office  205/007/248
Annie
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:03 am
				by Annie
				No Not above marriage , this Alfred's father is Moses.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... tts-FamilyAnnie
 
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:07 pm
				by peterd
				could this be alfred
1881;   57 High St Beggars Row, Rowley Regis, Stafford 
Edward GRAZIER   49   Harbury, Worcester, Labourer At A Colliery     
 Myra GRAZIER   50   Dudley, Worcester, 
 George Henry GRAZIER   22   Dudley, Worcester, Chain Maker     
 Myra Elizabeth GRAZIER   19   Dudley, Worcester, Chain Maker     
 Alfred WILLETTS   Lodger   U   22   Rowley Regis, Stafford, Chain Maker
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:17 pm
				by Annie
				Thank you Peterd, yes that could be Alfred Willetts I'll search for marr after 1881 I want to  see who names father  Thomas or James.
Annie
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Tue Aug 23, 2011 10:02 pm
				by peterd
				poss 3 ?
WILLETTS Alfred EDGE Emily 1890 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/002/440 
WILLETTS Alfred JOHNSON Sophia 1888 Blackheath, St Paul West Midlands Dudley Register Office 012/002/327 
WILLETTS Alfred H KENDRICK Clara 1884 Wordsley, Holy Trinity West Midlands Dudley Register Office 018/006/339 
they should be on 1891 married ?
			 
			
					
				Re: James Willetts +Elizabeth Mansell
				Posted: Wed Aug 24, 2011 2:38 pm
				by Northern Lass
				thanks all leaving this one for the moment and archiving