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I have the Allen family bible with dates of birth of Francis and his children.
Bible
Francis Allen b 5/9/1842
his children
John Allen b 26/5/1865
Mary Ann Allen b 19/3/1867
Lizzie Allen b 10/8/1870
Harry Allen b 19/7/1876 died 26/2 1880
Francis Allen b 17/5/1898
Are these facts good enough to put on BCC?

Is this him on BCC?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... len-Family

Yes thats him and his daughter Mary Ann is wife of Dan Partridge on the other thread running now

1871. Rumbow, Halesowen
Francis Allen, head, 28, Gun Barrel borer? and Nail Maker, Quinton
Sarah, wife, 30, Lye
Mary Ann, 4,
Elizabeth, daur, 7 months
others born Halesowen

1881 Hill Street Hasbury
Francis Allen, head, 38, Nailer Local Preacher (new ? )
Sarah, wife, 41, Lye
Mary A, daur, 14,
Lizzie, daur, 10
All others born Halesowen

1891. Hill Street, Hasbury
Francis Allen, head, 48, Boot Dealer, Quinton
Sarah, wife, 50, Lye
Mary A, daur, 24, Dressmaker
Lizzie, daur, 20, Shop assistant
others all born Halesowen

??
1901 Hill Street Hasbury
Francis Allen, head, 58, Boot and shoe dealer
Margaret wife, 43,
Francis, son, 2

Allen Francis of Hill Street Hasbury Halesowen, Worcestershire boot and shoe dealer died 19th October 1911 Probate Worcester 20 February to Dan Stewart Partridge cabinet maker and James Sawyer tool Maker. Effects £274 13s 11d

I have the Indenture for this which states names

Does it say anything about Margaret? I cant see a marriage yet?
Jo

Neither can I

You would have thought he would have if he was a preacher?

Can anyone see them in 1911 and see if it gives how long married?
Jo

dumblonde wrote:I have the Allen family bible with dates of birth of Francis and his children.
Bible
Francis Allen b 5/9/1842
his children
John Allen b 26/5/1865
Mary Ann Allen b 19/3/1867
Lizzie Allen b 10/8/1870
Harry Allen b 19/7/1876 died 26/2 1880
Francis Allen b 17/5/1898
Are these facts good enough to put on BCC?

Any bapts?...just to dble check bible info?

any birth /death indexes?

In Bible just says borne. Margaret is in the Indenture but she dies before it is processed.
I wrote all the registrations down last night and lost them when I posted them, took ages I only use 2 fingers to type ,so here goes again

Sarah Allen died Halesowen Dudley reg Office 1895 HAL/031/233
Margaret Allen died age 52 Stourbridge 6c 64 'Dec' 1910
Margaret Allen died Halesowen Dudley Reg Off 1910 HAL/042/147
Francis Allen ---------------------------------------1911 HAL/042/491
Mary Ann Allen born 1867 Halesowen Dudley Reg Off HAL/026/44
Lizzie Allen ------ 1870-------------------------------HAL/029/481
Francis Allen -------- 1898-------------------------------HAL/069/319
Harry Allen------------1876-------------------------------HAL/037/373
Harry Allen died 1880-------------------------------HAL/021/459

Lizzie Allen married Benjamin W Hill 1892 Dudley St Thomas Dudley Reg Off 204/040/190
Benjamin W Hill died 1905 Halesowen Dudley Reg Off HAL/038/181
Lizzie Hill married Frank Cook 1908 Stourbridge Reg Off, registers at Dudley 001/025/65
Lizzie is Cook on Indenture

The only marriage I can find for Francis senior is
Francis Allen married Mary A Hobbis 1898 Halesowen St John Dudley Reg Off 014/007/232
Confused his wife is deffo Margaret on Indenture, but time scale right to give birth to Francis junior

Could this be them in 1911

1911 : Hill Street Hasbury Halesowen
ALLEN, Francis Head Widower M 68 1843 Boot Dealer Quiton Nr Birm Worc
ALLEN JUNR, Francis Son M 12 1899 School Hasbury Nr Halesowen Worc
WALKER, Lottie Servant Single F 29 1882 Domestic Servant Shropshhire Cleverly Mortimer


Annie

Yes, Indenture states of Hill St,Hasbury, boot and shoe maker

Add what you feel is good checked info Dumblonde
marriage here needs checking
Francis Allen married Mary A Hobbis 1898 Halesowen St John Dudley Reg Off 014/007/232

is she margaret when she dies?