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ARC Tbc -----James Winnall

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 10:01 am
by kdw
16 Oct 1898 Christ Church Lye
James Winnall 27 Bachelor Ironworker Careless Green James Winnall Carter
Mary Jane Kurton 25 Spinster Lye Samuel Kurton Horse Breaker
Wit: Joseph Kurton X Mary Kurton X

Added to BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =421329720

Could this be his father ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... all-Family

Need to find on census before marriage

Re: James Winnall

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 11:04 am
by mallosa
Yes, looks like you have the correct father...

1891: School Street, Rowley Regis
James Winall 54 Head Coalminer Pedmore
Elizabeth Winall 52 Wife Halesowen
James Winall 21 Son S Puddler in Iron Works Rowley Regis

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 2:30 pm
by kdw
Not sure about the one on BCC see 1851 and 1841 census for John

I can find no James connected to William Winnal on census
1841 Pedmore
William Wennall 50 Nailor
Sarah Wennall 50
Sarah Wennall 25
Thomas Wennall 20 Ag Lab
Henrry Wennall 15 Nailor
William Wennall 14
Maria Wennall 12
All Born in County

1851 Pedmore
William Winnall Head Widower 63 Nail Maker Born Pedmore
Henry Winnall Son U 23 Nail Maker Born Pedmore
William Winnall Son U 26 Nailo Maker Born Pedmore

1861 Cottage Pedmore
William Winnal Head Widr 73 Nailor Born County of Worcester
Henry Winnal Son Un 39 Nailor Born County of Worcester

IGI Exctracted
JOHN WINNAL
Christening: 18 APR 1830 Pedmore, Worcester, England
Parents:
Father: JOHN WINNAL
Mother: SUSANNAH

1901 School Street Rowley Regis
James Winnall Head M 66 Carter in Ironworks born Stourbridge
Elizabeth Winnall Wife M 62 Born Halesowen
Emma Tolnay Daur M 35 Chainmaker Born Cradley Heath
Lily B Davies Grand Daur 16 Chainmaker Born Cradley Heath
Frank Winnall Grandson 13 Chainmaker Born Cradley Heath
Bert Winnall Grandson 11 Scholar Cossed out Born Cradley Heath

1881 46 Lomey Town Rowley Regis
James Winall Head Mar 45 Coal Miner Born Pedmore
Elizabeth Winall Wife Mar 42 Born Pedmore
Emma Winall Daur 15 Born Rowley Regis
James Winall Son 11 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Mary Ann Winall Daur 3 Born Rowley Regis
Caroline Winall Daur 1 Born Rowley Regis

1871 Lomey Town Rowley Regis
James Winnall Head Mar 35 Banksman Pit Born Pedmore
Elizabeth Winnall Wife Mar 33 Born Cradley
Ellen Winnall Daur 9 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Clara Winnall Daur 7 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Emma J Winnall Daur 5 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Frank Winnall Son 3 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
James Winnall Son 1 Born Rowley Regis

1861 Cradley Road Rowley Regis
James Winall Head Mar 26 Coal Miner Born Pedmore
Elizabeth Winall Wife Mar 21 Frock Mkaer Born Cradley
Harriott Winall Daur 8 MO Born Cradley Heath

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1851
Village Pedmore
John Winnell Head Mar 70 Nail Maker Born Pedmore
Shusana Winnell Wife Mar 57 Nail Maker Born Pedmore
John Winnell Son U 21 Nail Mkaer Born Pedmore
James Winnell Son U 16 Nail Maker Born Pedmore

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1841 Pedmore
John Winnall 60 Nailor
Shusanna Winnall 45
Frances Winnall 15 Ag Lab
Emma Winnall 15
Hellen Winnall 13
John Winnall 11
James Winnall 7
All born in County

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/006/100
WINNALL John AINSWORTH Elizabeth

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sat Jul 30, 2011 7:31 pm
by kdw
Marriage added for Lookup

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:21 am
by kdw
Marriage looked up thank you
30 Dec 1857 St Mary Oldswinford
John Winnall X 28 Bachelor Labourer Stambermill John Winnall Nail Maker
Elizabeth Ainsworth X Widow Stambermill Evan ? Labourer
Wit: William Wyatt Emma Hatton X

NL or Rocky can you please have a look at the cert and see if you can tell age of Elizabeth and Fathers name

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:26 am
by Northern Lass
??36
and
Erasimus?

have attached for others to see

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:44 am
by kdw
Now im really confussed if her age was 36 when she married is it the right family i have found cus she was only 21 in 1861

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:53 am
by kdw
:oops: :oops: :oops:
Completey gone now
I am really really sorry
I am looking for James Winall with father James a carter

So need a marriage for James and Elizabeth

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 10:55 am
by Northern Lass
could it mean under?

so she should be 18 on marriage
born about 1839?

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 11:09 am
by kdw
I still think John is the son of John and Susannah

1861 Gig Mill Fields Stourbridge
John Winhall Head Mar 30 Ag Lab Born Pedmore
Elizabeth Winhall Wife Mar 37 Born Oswestry Salop
Ann Hainsworth Daur 8 Scholar Born Brettell Lane

Need to find a marriage for Ainsworth/Hainsworth to an Elizabeth pre 1857

Re: James Winnall---------------KDW adding?

Posted: Sun Jul 31, 2011 4:07 pm
by kdw
Marriages looked up and added
27 Feb 1840 St Thomas Dudley
William Wyatt Of Full age Bachelor Glassmaker Dudley John Wyatt Dead Labourer
Ellen Winnall X Of Full age Spinster Dudley John Winnall Nailer
Wit: John ? Sophia ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =401972506

7 May 1860 St Andrew Dudley
James WINNAL F B Collier Cradley Heath Father John Winnall Labourer
Elizabeth CHAMBERS F S Cradley Heath Father Henry Chambers Labourer
Wit; John Boff Elizabeth Bowers
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =154856913

30 Dec 1857 St Mary Oldswinford
John Winnall X 28 Bachelor Labourer Stambermill John Winnall Nail Maker
Elizabeth Ainsworth 36? X Widow Stambermill Evan ? Labourer
Wit: William Wyatt Emma Hatton X
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =655690587

22 Apr 1883 St Andrew Dudley
Emanuel DAVIS 20 B Labourer Reddall Hill Father Joseph Davis Labourer
Clara WINNALL 19 S Cradley Heath Father James Winnall Labourer
Wit; George Parks Annie Parks
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =649086824

18 May 1890 St Luke Reddal Hill
John Totney X 32 Bachelor Chainmaker Newtown Lane William Totney Chainmaker
Emma Jane Winnall X 24 Spinster Newtown Lane James Winnall Miner
Wit: Frederick Pass X Sarah Ann Pass X
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =179711190

Unless anyone wants to add anything this can now be archived