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Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:12 pm
by mumbles
Connects to Linell

SANDERS Thomas OLIVER Mary A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/446 1858

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =125892548
Only Thomas Saunders/Saunders I can find in Halesowen is :- and father like Thomas is a Rivet Maker

1851 Census Bundle Hill Halesowen Stourbridge Worcs.
William Sanders Head 36 Nailer
Elizabeth Sanders wife 36 born Hawn Worcs.
Ann Sanders dau 15
Thomas Sanders son 12
George Sanders son 9
Eli Sanders son 6 Scholar
Emma Sanders dau 4 Scholar
Ellen Sanders dau 2
Rest born Halesowen Worcs.


1861 Census Thorns Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Sanders Head 46 Rivet Maker
Betsey Sanders wife 45
Ann Sanders dau 24
George Sanders son 19 Iron Rivet Maker
Eli Sanders son 16 Iron Rivet Maker
Emma Sanders dau 14 Scholar
Ellen Sanders dau 11 Scholar
Arthur Sanders son 8 Scholar
Elizabeth Sanders dau 6 Scholar
William H. Sanders son 2
All born Halesowen Worcs.

1871 Census Thorns Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Saunders Head 56 Rivet Maker born Halesowen Salop
Ann Saunders wife 59 Rivet Maker
Arthur Saunders son 17 Rivet Maker
Elizabeth Saunders dau 15 Scholar
William Ken Saunders son 12
Rest born Dudley Worcs.

1881 Census Thorns Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Saunders Head 66 Rivet Maker
Ann Saunders wife 60
Both born Halesowen Worcs.

1891 Census Thorns Road Kingswinford Stourbridge Staffs.
William Sanders Head 76 Living on Own Means born Halesowen Worcs.
Hannah Sanders wife 69 born Dudley Wood Worcs.

William appears to have married twice . The second time to Ann (Hannah) Hackett

SANDERS William HACKETT Ann Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/024/324 1866

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:41 pm
by Jimmy
Thomas Sanders.
Groom's Birth Date: 1837.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Oliver.
Bride's Birth Date: 1836.
Bride's Age: 22.
Marriage Date: 05 Dec 1858.
Marriage Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: William Sanders.
Bride's Father's Name: John Oliver.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01975-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 367802.
Reference Number: i186 v68 p223 cn446.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:03 pm
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy I will add that in
Still leaves question of William's first and second marriage

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 8:56 pm
by Jimmy
1841. High Fields, Hasbury. Hales Owen, Shropshire.
William Sanders 26. Nailer.
Bessey Sanders 26.
Ann Sanders 4.
Thomas Sanders 3.

All born in county.

William Sanders.
Bride's Name: Bessey Adams.
Marriage Date: 26 Dec 1833.
Marriage Place: Old Swinford,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M04027-1.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 533996.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 9:02 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1866.
SANDERS William. HACKETT Ann. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office . 204/024/324.

Extracted,
WILLIAM SANDERS.
ANN HACKETT OR HOMER.
Marriage, 11 JUN 1866. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:37 am
by mumbles
Thanks Jimmy,
Does that mean she was Ann Hackett (nee Homer) as she was 45+ when married ?

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:48 am
by mumbles
There is an Ann Homer married to William Hackett already on bcc and is right age and born Dudley Wood as noted on 1891 Census for Hannah Sanders
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =566212995

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:35 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:Thomas Sanders.
Groom's Birth Date: 1837.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Oliver.
Bride's Birth Date: 1836.
Bride's Age: 22.
Marriage Date: 05 Dec 1858.
Marriage Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: William Sanders.
Bride's Father's Name: John Oliver.
Groom's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01975-9.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 367802.
Reference Number: i186 v68 p223 cn446.




This is extracted on old siteWILLIAM SANDERS Marriages:
Spouse: BESSEY ADAMS Family
Marriage: 26 DEC 1833 Old Swinford, Worcester,
Extracted


need to look at that 1866 to see what info is

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:46 pm
by Jimmy
Extracted.
BESSY ADAMS.
Christening, 15 APR 1816. Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
THOMAS ADAMS.
HANNAH.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:50 pm
by Jimmy
Deaths Jun 1857.
Sanders Betsy. Dudley. 6c. 74.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 4:55 pm
by Northern Lass
wonder if she is Betsy or Bessy

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 5:33 pm
by Northern Lass
thanks to RF for look up

it checked out for Wm as second marriage
and I have connected up to Ann Homer

father for Wm is a Thomas

could this be him?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =887338186

can we find a bapt pls

also a death for Wm hackett betw 1861 and 1866

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:25 pm
by Jimmy
A possible,

WILLIAM SAUNDERS.
Christening, 17 JUL 1814. Halesowen, Worcester.
Parents:
THOMAS SAUNDERS.
HANNAH.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 9:27 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:
also a death for Wm hackett betw 1861 and 1866


Take your pick,

Deaths Jun 1862.
Hackett William. Dudley. 6c. 83.

Deaths Dec 1862.
HACKETT William. Stourbridge. 6c. 94.

Deaths Mar 1863.
HACKETT William. Stourbridge. 6c. 100.

Deaths Dec 1864.
HACKETT William. Stourbridge. 6c. 114.

Re: Thomas Saunders born 1838 of Halesowen Worcs.

Posted: Sun Jul 24, 2011 8:20 am
by Northern Lass
Ok just put a died before date

and added bapt as a possible

see if mumbles is done with this now
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =615044250

good connection there mumbles well spotted