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COMPLETED.............Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 1:56 pm
by Northern Lass
I think it is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =953548922

and I think this is his son

27 March 1891 Holy Trinity Old Hill<br>
William Tromans 25 Bach Clerk Riddins Street Thomas Siviter Tromans Warehouseman<br>
Sarah Ann Priest 24 spinster 24 King Street Joseph Priest chainmaster?<br>
banns<br>
Both signed<br>
Wit- Benjamin Taylor? / Mary Ann Tromans

I will open thread for Sarah Ann


can we find John on census pls

and a marriage for a Thomas Tromans and Mary Ann

1881 6 Riddings St Old Hill
Thomas Tromans head mar 38 Warehouseman
Mary A Tromans wife 38
William Tromans son 15 unemployed
Elizabeth Tromans dau 13 scholar
Mary A Tromans dau 8 scholar
Alfred Tromans son 6 scholar
Margaret E Tromans dau 4
Thomas S Tromans son 2
Ann Tromans dau 2mths
all born Rowley Regis

1891 6 Riddings St Old Hill
Thomas S Tromans head m 48 nail warehouseman
Mary A Tromans wife mar 48
Elizabeth R? Tromans dau 23 single dressmaker
Alfred Tromans son 16 single striker Gas fitting maker
Eliza Tromans dau s 14 single dress makers apprentice
Thomas S Tromans son single 12 scholar
Annie Tromans dau single 10
Lillie Tromans dau single 6
all born Rowley Regis

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 2:29 pm
by Northern Lass
I cant see a marriage for Thomas and mary Ann that fits
there is this one but she isnt mary ann
1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TROWMANS Thomas GREENFIELD Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/245

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:13 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Riddings St, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Truman 28. Warehouse man.
Mary Ann Truman 28.
William Truman 5.
Elizabeth Truman 5.

All born Rowley Regis.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:38 pm
by Jimmy
1861 : Spinners End
John Troman, Head, 49, Clerk in gas tubes works
Elizabeth Troman, Wife, 49
George Troman, Son, 27
Mary Ann Troman, Daur, 22
Edwin Troman, Son 20, Chain maker
Thomas Troman, Son, 17. Apprentice to nail trade,
John Troman, Son, 15
Ellen Troman, Son, 13
Sarah Ann Troman, Daur, 9
Emma Troman, Daur, 6
All born Rowley Regis.

This one above from BCC,

There is also this Thomas Tromans, with different parents to the one on BCC, but with the right occupation of warehouse man, which match's later census's.

1861. Old Hill, Golden Cross. Rowley Regis.
Margaret E Tromans 42. Widow, Victualler. Birmingham.
Alfred Tromans 20. Warehouse man.
Thomas Tromans 18. Warehouse man.
Elizabeth Tromans 14.
Eliza M Tromans 6.
John Payne 73. Father. Mar. Draper. Birmingham.
Ann Bayliss 19. Serv.

1851. Old Hill.
William Tromans 44. Victualler. Birmingham.
Margret E Tromans 33. Birmingham.
Alfred Tromans 10. Son.
Thomas Tromans 8. Son.
Elizabeth Tromans 4. Dau.
Edmund Tromans 18. Brother. Apprentice to Nail something, can't read it.
Thomas Tomes 13. Ser.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 3:47 pm
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1861. Old Hill, Golden Cross. Rowley Regis.
Margaret E Tromans 42. Widow, Victualler. Birmingham.
Alfred Tromans 20. Warehouse man.
Thomas Tromans 18. Warehouse man.
Elizabeth Tromans 14.
Eliza M Tromans 6.
John Payne 73. Father. Mar. Draper. Birmingham.
Ann Bayliss 19. Serv. .


This marriages seem to match,

27 Sep 1840.
William Troman. full. b. Gun smith. Bilston. Thomas Troman. Victualler.
Margaretta Eliza Pane. full. s. Bilston. John Pane. Draper.

Banns.

J.Perkins & J.Biddulph jr. George Cottom. St.Peters , Wolverhampton.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:54 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:27 March 1891 Holy Trinity Old Hill<br>
William Tromans 25 Bach Clerk Riddins Street Thomas Siviter Tromans Warehouseman<br>
Sarah Ann Priest 24 spinster 24 King Street Joseph Priest chainmaster?<br>
banns<br>
Both signed<br>
Wit- Benjamin Taylor? / Mary Ann Tromans.


Extracted.
THOMAS SIVETER TROWMANS.
Christening, 11 JUN 1843. Saint Marys, Handsworth, Stafford
Parents:
WILLIAM TROWMANS.
ELIZA.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:13 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:I cant see a marriage for Thomas and mary Ann that fits
there is this one but she isnt mary ann
1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
TROWMANS Thomas GREENFIELD Mary Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/245


A possible, but name missing, could be Clent.
Marriages Mar 1865.
Hill Mary Ann Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.
Sermon Enoch Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.
Trueman Thomas Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.

Possible missing name,
Skinner Priscilla. Bromsgrove. 6c. _35.

Enoch Serman.
Bride's Name: Priscilla Skinner.
Marriage Date: 13 Feb 1865.
Marriage Place: Alvechurch,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02549-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 563358.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:20 pm
by Jimmy
This is a bit odd,
Thomas Trueman.
Bride's Name: Mary Ann Hill Or Sermon.
Marriage Date: 18 Feb 1865.
Marriage Place: Alvechurch,Worcester.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02549-2.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 563358.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:05 am
by Northern Lass
Jimmy I think you have it there

I will amend on Bcc

need that marriage and that does look good

Marriages Mar 1865.
Hill Mary Ann Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.
Sermon Enoch Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.
Trueman Thomas Bromsgrove. 6c. 435.

Re: Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 11:53 am
by Northern Lass
completed with thanks :grin:

Re: COMPLETED.............Thomas Siviter Tromans b abt 1843

Posted: Sat Jul 23, 2011 12:44 pm
by Jimmy
A possible for Mary Ann Hill,

1851. Old Hill, Rowley Regis.
Thomas Hill 42. Coal miner. Madeley, Shropshire.
Ann Hill 41. Sedgley.
John Hill 21.
Sarah Hill 14. West Bromwich.
Thomas Hill 12.
Abraham Hill 10.
Hannah Hill 8
Mary A Hill 6.
Caroline Hill 4.
Richard Hill 9 MO.

Others born Rowley Regis.