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Thomas Bannister born 1864 married Kitty Billingham daughter of Joseph Billingham founder of Providence Chain Manufacturers
Bannisters lived either next door or a few doors away from each other in Census period 1841 to 1871 and I think all are connected

William Bannister on Bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =636563092

1841 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Bannister 20 Chain Maker
Mary Bannister 20
Sarah Bannister 1
All born Staffordshire

1851 Census Red Hill Farm Bellbroughton Hagley Bromsgrove Worcs.
William Bannister 30 Farmer 40 Acres born Staffordshire
Mary Ann Bannister wife 30 born Staffordshire
Jesse Bannister son 7 Scholar
Elizabeth Bannister dau 5 Scholar
Sarah Bannister dau 3
William Bannister son 1
Thomas Taft servant 56 Ag. Lab. born Shropshire
Sarah Band servant 12 House Servant
Rest born Worcestershire

1861 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Bannister 40 Chain Maker
Mary Anne Bannister wife 38
Jesse Bannister son 17 Chain Maker
Elizabeth Bannister dau 15 House Servant
Sarah Bannister dau 13 Scholar
William Bannister son 11 Scholar
Mary Ann Bannister dau 9 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1871 Census Holley Bush Public House New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Bannister 51 Publican
Jane Bannister wife 50 born Dudley Worcs.
Mary A. Bannister dau 19 born Halesowen Worcs.
William Bannister son (m)21 Labourer
Mary Bannister sons wife 19 born Dudley Worcs.
Frederick W. Bannster grd.son 3mths.
Elizabeth Little servant 19 Domestic Servant
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census 42 New Town Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
William Bannister 60 Licensed Victualler
Jane Bannister wife 59 born Netherton Worcs.
Mary A. Bannister grd.dau 18 born Cradley Heath Staffs.
Amy Bennett servant 18 General Servant born Netherton Worcs.
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.
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1861 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Banaster Head (wid) 78 born Cradley Worcs.
Thomas Banaster grd. son 19 Accountant Nail Clerk born New Town Staffs.
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Thomas Bannister on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =366415328

1871 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Bannister Head 29 Nail Manufacturer (Clerk)
Nancy Bannister wife 30 born Dudley Worcs.
Mary A. Bannister dau 8 Scholar
Thomas Bannister son 7 Scholar
Frances E. Bannister dau 4 Scholar
Edith H. Bannister dau 2
William E. Bannister son 9mths
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1881 Census New Town Lane Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Bannister Head 39 Clerk at Warehouse
Frances Bannister wife 33 born Warley Wigorn Worcs.
Sarah Bannister dau 15
Frances E. Bannister dau 13 Pupil Teacher
William E. Bannister son 10 Scholar
Harry F. Bannister son 8 Scholar
Charles H. Bannister son 4
Frank E. Bannister son 2
Annie E. Bannister dau 0
Rest born Cradley Heath Staffs.

1891 Census Crsdley Road Dudley Staffs.
Thomas Banister Head 49 Manager to Nail Manufacturer
Frances Banister wife 43 born Warley Wigorn Worcs.
Sarah Banister dau 25
Frances E. Banister dau 13 Pupil Teacher
Edith Helena Banister dau 22
William Elub Banister son 20 Cloth Nail Warehouse
Henry Frederick Banister son 18 Nail Warehouseman
Charles Owen Banister son 14 Scholar
Frank Edward Banister son 12 Scholar
Annie Eveley Banister dau 10 Scholar
Alsie Louise Banister dau 8 born Netherton Worcs.
Dorah Effie Maurel Banister dau 4 born Netherton Worcs.
Marin Willsey Banister son 1 born Netherton Worcs.
Rest born Cradley Heath Staffs.

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Thomas Bannister on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =672722475

1841 Cradley Heath, Rowley
Thomas Bannister 30 - Publician
Eleanor Bannister 25
Jane Clark 3 - y b in c (niece - daughter Joseph and Ann)
others n b in c

1851 New Town, Rowley
Thomas Barmester 40 - Grocer - b Rowley
Ellenor Barmester 38 - b Dudley
Jake Clark 13 (Jane) - niece - b Kingswinford
Jesse Bannister 8 - nephew - b Rowley
Elizabeth Bannister 6 - niece - b Rowley

1861 New Town, Rowley
Thomas Bannaster 51 - Publican - b New Town
Elenor Bannaster 48 - b Dudley
Jane Clarke 22 - niece - Domestic Servant - b Brierley Hill
Joseph Fowlar 37 - Lodger - Scrap founder - b Birmingham
Edwin Newton 52 - Lodger - Messenger - b Birmingham
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All above are on bcc but not all connected also peterd suggests that Eleanor Holloway who married Thomas Bannister had a sister Jane Holloway who married William Bannister( as widow Jane Rudge)brother of Thomas Bannister but has not made connection
Validation that Thomas and William are brothers is fact that Jesse and Elizabeth Bannister children of William are with his brother in 1851
Sarah Bannister must be mother of Thomas and William as Thomas born 1842 is shown as he grd.son

Entries for 1851 Census show a rare double entry for Jesse and Elizabeth Bannaister

agree mumbles have connected
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =923012041

will add that 1839 marriage to look up

do you think we can connect up Jane?

who does thomas belong to?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =366415328

can anyone see a bapt or birth pls for thomas b 1842

need Sarah in the prev census too pls

and Thomas

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =270257797

I think you can connnect Jane
1841 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Bannister 55 Publican born Staffs.
Caroline Thorneycroft 15 F.S. not born Staffs.

1851 Census New Town Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Sarah Bannister 67 (wid) Victualler born Staffs.
Thomas Bannister grd.son 9 Scholar
Thomas Penn grd.son 16 Blacksmith born Kingswinford Staffs.

Also found Thomas Bannister born 1842 2nd marriage was to a Frances Olden not Frances Owen as recorded on FreeBMD
Can prove by reference to presence of Olden family members connected to Bannister family throughout later Census records

do you fancy connecting up jane pls mumbles if you a min

that frances may be misheard on regis office info

Will do Nl
Frances,s brother Edwin was Inspector of Nuisances on 1881 Census !!!

sent you a marriage courtesy of Rf

father for William is thomas

Thanks Nl & RF
I can read all of Certificate except Occupation of 1)Thomas Bannister which looks like Pictualler but could be Victualler
Abraham Barnsley which looks like Cart Man Manufacturer

mumbles wrote:Thanks Nl & RF
I can read all of Certificate except Occupation of 1)Thomas Bannister which looks like Pictualler but could be Victualler
Abraham Barnsley which looks like Cart Man Manufacturer

I agree Mumbles
put that with a ? after them but yes looks like that to me

are we still sorting who Thomas belongs to?

Still need to sort out who Thomas belongs to. Must be son of William or Thomas

Abraham Barnsley who was father of Mary Ann Barnsley could be this Abraham who was brother of Kitty Barnsley who married
Joseph Billingham
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_

Thomas Bannister born 1842 is most likely to be son of William Bannister and Mary Ann Barnsley as they did have children between 1840 and 1852 .
Thomas Bannister born 1819 and Eleanor Holloway born 1813 do not have children showing as living with them but have
nieces and nephews. Why would they have nieces and nephews staying with them and leave their own son with grandmother ?
Thomas Bannister born 1842 also possibly named his first child after his mother Mary Ann and second child after his father Thomas and third child after his grandmother Sarah
Could look up marriage to Nancy Williams in 1861 Bromsgrove ( probably a Clent Marriage)

mumbles wrote:Thomas Bannister born 1842 is most likely to be son of William Bannister and Mary Ann Barnsley as they did have children between 1840 and 1852 .
Thomas Bannister born 1819 and Eleanor Holloway born 1813 do not have children showing as living with them but have
nieces and nephews. Why would they have nieces and nephews staying with them and leave their own son with grandmother ?
Thomas Bannister born 1842 also possibly named his first child after his mother Mary Ann and second child after his father Thomas and third child after his grandmother Sarah
Could look up marriage to Nancy Williams in 1861 Bromsgrove ( probably a Clent Marriage)

father to that Thomas is William a chain Manufacturer
Marriage courtesy of Rf
St Kenelms Romsley

but that doesnt match with William the farmer victualler
but must be him?

send you info mumbles if you can add etc


what do we need to connect to the barnsleys