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ARC TBC.............Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:12 pm
by mumbles
Article in Bugle about Joseph Billingham's Chain Manufacturers of Cradley Heath has lot of detail on family
I believe Joseph Billingham born 1807 married Kitty Barnsley and both are already on bcc but not connected
1841 Census Cradley Heath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham 30 Chain Maker
Kitty Billingham 32
Joseph Billingham 8
Myrah Billingham 6
Alfred Billingham 5
Harriott Billingham 1
Ann Billingham 14 F.S.
All born Staffordshire

1851 Census Cradley Heath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham Head 44 Chain Manufacturer born Kingswinford Staffs.
Kitty Billingham wife 44
Joseph Billingham son 18
Mirah Billingham dau 16
Alfred Billingham 5
Harriott Billingham dau 11 Scholar
Jabez Billingham son 8 Scholar
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffordshire

1861 Census Darby & Pargeters Colliery Foxbald Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Bellingham Head 54 Chain Maker born Kingswinford Staffs.
Kitty Bellingham wife 45
Harriett Bellingham dau 20 Dressmaker born Rowley Regis
Jabery Bellingham son 18 Chain Maker born Rowley Regis
Edward Bellingham brother (wid) 46 Chain Maker
James Vanshom Apprentice Chain Maker 15
Nancy Barnsley mother.in.law 88 born Rowley Regis
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs. Staffordshire

1871 Census Union Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Bellingham Head 64 Chain Manufacturer
Louise Bellingham wife 62
Sarah Stober servant 17 Servant
All born Kingswinford Staffs.

Kitty died 1863 and Joseph married a Louisa Westwood in 1864


Next door to son Joseph Billingham
1871 Census Union Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham Head 38 Chain Maker
Phebe Billingham wife 37
Gideon Billingham son 7 born Gainsboro Lincs.
Kitty Billingham 4 born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Billingham dau 2 born Rowley Regis
Rest born Kingswinford Staffs.

Cannot find this marriage Joseph Billingham to Phoebe

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 12:58 pm
by rockyfowler
BILLINGHAM Joseph COX Phoebe Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/002/284 1854

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:03 pm
by mumbles
Thanks RF as it ties up as mother Martha Cox 74 is with family in 1881

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 1:37 pm
by Jimmy
rockyfowler wrote:BILLINGHAM Joseph COX Phoebe Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/002/284 1854


Joseph Billingham.
Groom's Birth Date: 1833.
Groom's Age: 21.
Bride's Name: Phoebe Cox.
Bride's Birth Date: 1833.
Bride's Age: 21.
Marriage Date: 03 Dec 1854.
Marriage Place: St Edmund'S, Dudley, Worcester,.
Groom's Father's Name: Joseph Billingham.
Bride's Father's Name: Blank.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02301-7.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 992182.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:48 pm
by mumbles
1881 Census 42 Providence Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham Head 48 Chain Manufacturer
Phebe Billingham wife 47
Gideon Billingham son 17 born Gainsborough Lincolnshire
Kitty Billingham dau 14
Elizabeth Billingham dau 12
Loamoni Billingham son 8 Scholar
Martha Cox wifes mother 74 (wid)
Rest born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1891 Census 42 Providence Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham Head 58 Chain Manufacturer
Phebe Billingham wife 5
Lomey Billingham son 18 Assistant Manager
Avril James servant 14 General Domestic Servant
All born Rowley Regis Staffs.

1901 Census The Villas Spinners End Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Joseph Billingham Head 68 Chain Manufacturer born Cradley Heath Staffs.
Phoebe Billingham wife 67 born Old Hill Staffs.
Elizabeth Hubery servant 26 General Domestic Servant born Old Hill Staffs.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 2:59 pm
by Jimmy
Billingham Joseph, of Four Ways, Cradley Heath, Staffordshire. Died 4 August 1905. Probate London 28 October to Phoebe Billingham widow, and Lomey Billingham and Thomas Bannister chain manufactures and Benjamin Millward block manufacturer. Effects £6730. 11s. 2d.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sat Jul 09, 2011 3:50 pm
by mumbles
Jimmy that will ties in nicely with 1911 Census
Spinners End Cradley Heath Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Phoebe Billingham Head 77 (wid) born Old Hill Staffs.
17 Children, 3 living
Thomas Bannister son.in.law (m) 47 Chain Manufacturer
Hutty Bannister dau (m)
married 23 years , 2 children, 2 living
Elsie Bannister grd.dau 22
Joseph Bannister grd.son 16
Gertrude Adams servant 25 born Colley Gate Worc.
Rest born Cradley Heath Staffs.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 8:57 am
by mumbles
Joseph Billingham born 1833 who married Phoebe Cox are both already on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 10:56 am
by Northern Lass
I have connected up Joseph and Kitty
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

mumbles can you add the census and kids for the couple pls

so there is no marriage at all ?

wot about the louisa westwood one do we have that
or her on Bcc?

see if he is a wid on that

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:00 am
by Northern Lass
mumbles wrote:Joseph Billingham born 1833 who married Phoebe Cox are both already on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... #moreinfo_


connected this too will get look up but it looks good
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =843952848

need louisa marriage and kitty one if poss
but that looks good Mumbles nice one

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 11:08 am
by Jimmy
I can't see one for Kitty,
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1864.
BILLINGHAM Joseph. WESTWOOD Louisa. Dudley Register Office. Dudley Register Office. DRO/004/130.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley 1

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 2:47 pm
by Northern Lass
running with Louisa on another thread

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 3:58 pm
by mumbles
Children and all Census and other details all added

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 4:41 pm
by mumbles
Gideon Billingham son of Joseph and Phoebe married a Mary Maria Tibbetts St. Paul Blackheath 1885
and I believe Mary M. Tibbetts is already on bcc
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =671082360
Reasons :-
Children of Gideon and Mary were:-
1) Ethel Tibetta Billingham who married an Edward Green 1910 Christ Church Cradley Heath
2 Joseph Bursley Billingham ( Family name from two generations back on Tibbetts was a Mary Maria Burley)
1911 Census 42 Providence Street Rowley Regis Dudley Staffs.
Mary Maria Billingham Head (wid) 47
Joseph Bursley Billingham son 23 Chain Manufacturer
Both born Cradley Heath Staffs.

Re: Joseph Billingham and Kitty Barnsley

Posted: Sun Jul 10, 2011 7:10 pm
by Northern Lass
anything you need to confirm?

or you ok to connect