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Just need this marriage?

rockyfowler wrote:Tryng to find the wit; Ellen- was mary illigit from Ann Asbury?
1881
WALKER, Joseph Head Married M 30 1851 (C) Miner
Stafford
WALKER, Ann?? Wife Married F 30 1851
Worcester
Worcestershire
WALKER, Ellen Daughter Single F 5 1876 Scholar
Stafford
ASBURY, James Boarder Head Married M 61 1820 Miner (C)
Worcester
Worcestershire
ASBURY, Ann Wife Married F 61 1820
Worcester
Worcestershire
ASBURY, Alice Grand Daughter Single F 10 1871 Scholar
Worcester
Worcestershire

78, Waggon Street, Rowley Regis County:
Staffordshire

Note by NL merged threads
Ellen is witness at marriage of Mary Walker-running on another thread
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =673779901

if we can explore who Joseph is and belongs to might help

rockyfowler wrote:1881 78 Wagon Street Rowley Regis
Joseph Walker h m 30 miner b Staffordshire
Ann Walker wife m 30 b Worcs.
Ellen Walker dau 5 b Staffordshire------------------------------------------note by NL poss witness?
James Asbury boarder m 61 miner b Worcs.
Ann Asbury wife 61 b Worcs
Alice Asbury G.dau 10 b Worcs

note by NL this family above living next/near to William Pugh and wife Selina
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... di=6175075
and then next near to this family
1881.73 Waggon Street.Rowley Regis, Stafford.
Benjamin WALKER. Head U. 49. Old Hill, Stafford, Chain Maker.
Caroline WILLETT. Boarder. 54. Old Hill, Stafford.
Susannah WALKER . Niece U. 26. Old Hill, Stafford.
Rosannah WILLETT . Niece U. 18. Old Hill, Stafford.
Mary WALKER. Grand Dr. 4. Old Hill, Stafford.

Jimmy wrote:1891. 25 New St, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Walker 43. Lab at colliery.
Mary Walker 48. Wife.
William Powell 17. Stepson.
Mary A Powell 13. Step Dau.
Ellen Walker 14. Dau.
Ann E Walker 9. Dau.

Same House,
1891. 25 New St, Rowley Regis.
William Siviter 68.
Sarah J Siviter 19.
Eliza J Siviter 1.

1901. Rowley Regis.
Joseph Walker 43.
Mary Walker 52.
Mary A Powell 21. Step Dau.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1886.
WALKER Joseph. POWELL Mary. Rowley Regis, St Giles. Sandwell Register Office. 18/6/449.

6 Jun 1886 St Giles Rowley Regis
Joseph WALKER F W Miner Old Hill Father Joseph Walker Chain Maker
Mary POWELL F S Old Hill Father William Powell (Dec)---
After Banns the X Of Both
Wit; William Powell Elizabeth Walker Both Signed

Can we find Joseph Walker pls and father going back from 1881

and need that marriage to Ann

who is she?

looks like she dies
and he marries Mary Powell

rockyfowler wrote:WALKER, Ann
Registration District: Dudley
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1884
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
Age at death: 33
Volume No: 6C
Page No: 5

rockyfowler wrote:6 Jun 1886 St Giles Rowley Regis
Joseph WALKER F W Miner Old Hill Father Joseph Walker Chain Maker
Mary POWELL F S Old Hill Father William Powell (Dec)---
After Banns the X Of Both
Wit; William Powell Elizabeth Walker Both Signed

Who are the Wits?
who is that Elizabeth walker?

8 Aug 1875 St Thomas Dudley
William POWELL 22 B Boat Unloader Dudley Father William Powell (Dec) Miner
Selina WALKER 25 S Dudley Father William Walker Labourer
Wit; John Hackett X Kate Holt X

Is Elizabeth walker his sister?

can we find Joseph on the 1861 and 1871 pls

Poss,
1871. Wrights Lane, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Walker 45. Chain maker.
Murtha Walker 45.
Joseph Walker 19. Son. Chain maker.
Mary A Walker 10. Dau.
Edmund Walker 7. Son.
Elizabeth Walker 2. Dau.
Ellen Walker 10 Weeks. Dau.

All born Rowley Regis.

The only one I can see in 1861 is this one,
1861. Garratts Lane.
William Siviter 63. Head. Widow.
Mary Hodgetts 61.
Richard Bond 26.
Mary Bond 22.
Sarah Denty 4.
Elizabeth Denty 3.
Joseph Walker 12. Mar. Chain maker. looks more like 31, not 12.
Sarah Walker 28. Mar.
Joseph Walker 9.
M A Walker 2 MO.

All others are lodgers.

All born Rowley Regis.

Jimmy wrote:The only one I can see in 1861 is this one,
1861. Garratts Lane.
William Siviter 63. Head. Widow.
Mary Hodgetts 61.
Richard Bond 26.
Mary Bond 22.
Sarah Denty 4.
Elizabeth Denty 3.
Joseph Walker 12. Mar. Chain maker. looks more like 31, not 12.
Sarah Walker 28. Mar.
Joseph Walker 9.
M A Walker 2 MO.

All others are lodgers.

All born Rowley Regis.

Could Sarah have been mistranscribed, no suitable marriage for Joseph and Sarah.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1852.
WALKER Joseph. HODGETTS Martha. Dudley, St Edmund. Dudley Register Office. 201/001/473.

Jimmy wrote:The only one I can see in 1861 is this one,
1861. Garratts Lane.
William Siviter 63. Head. Widow.
Mary Hodgetts 61.
Richard Bond 26.
Mary Bond 22.
Sarah Denty 4.
Elizabeth Denty 3.
Joseph Walker 12. Mar. Chain maker. looks more like 31, not 12.
Sarah Walker 28. Mar.
Joseph Walker 9.
M A Walker 2 MO.

All others are lodgers.

All born Rowley Regis.

Rite this is all starting to unravel ........maybe

that Wm Siviter is this one
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =659014776
he never married Mary Hodgetts

His son Samuel has dau Selina Siviter who marries William Pugh
and
His other son James marries Selina Walker dau of John and Mary Walker
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =920233412

His other son William marries Elizabeth Powell
whose sister I think is Eliza Powell ....or some rellie....
and Eliza has William Powell who married Selina Walker living with her in 1871 aged 16

and

look Joseph Walker and Martha marriage
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =174097781

now those wits I think are on Caroline Walkers marriage

That is it isnt it

that is father of Mary Walker Joseph
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =683037330

G.dau of Mary Walker

Rocky we have it

what you think Jimmy

Jimmy wrote:Poss,
1871. Wrights Lane, Rowley Regis.
Joseph Walker 45. Chain maker.
Murtha Walker 45.
Joseph Walker 19. Son. Chain maker.
Mary A Walker 10. Dau.
Edmund Walker 7. Son.
Elizabeth Walker 2. Dau.
Ellen Walker 10 Weeks. Dau.

All born Rowley Regis.

so that is them in 1871

Northern Lass wrote:That is it isnt it

that is father of Mary Walker Joseph
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =683037330

G.dau of Mary Walker

Rocky we have it

what you think Jimmy

I stopped thinking ages ago,

1841. Redhall Hill.
William Siveter 35. Nailer.
Mary Siveter 35.
William Siveter 15.
Phebe Siveter 14.
Richard Siveter 12.
Samuel Siveter 12.
James Siveter 10.
Seelena Siveter 9.
/
Same House.
Phebe Hodgets 13.
Martha Hodgets 9.
Mary Hodgets 1.
John Tompkiss 15.

All born in county.