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John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 1:57 pm
by Northern Lass
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:03 pm
by gardener
1881
52 Lyng , West Brom
John Bisseker head m 72 West Brom labourer in forge (I)
Mary E ditto wife 48 West Brom
William ditto son unm 17 West Brom labourer in forge (I)
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:06 pm
by Northern Lass
gardener wrote:1881
52 Lyng , West Brom
John Bisseker head m 72 West Brom labourer in forge (I)
Mary E ditto wife 48 West Brom
William ditto son unm 17 West Brom labourer in forge (I)
is he 72 on the actual image?
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:18 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Lyttleton St, West Bromwich.
John Bisscher 63. Refiner some thing.
Mary Bisscher 34.
Joseph Bisscher 12.
William Bisscher 9.
Thomas Bisscher 26. Boarder.
All born West Bromwich.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:19 pm
by rockyfowler
1871
BISSEKER, John Head M 63 1808 Staffordshire Refiner? in Chain?
BISSEKER, Mary Wife F 37 1834 Staffordshire
BISSEKER, Joseph Son M 12 1859 Staffordshire
BISSEKER, William Son M 9 1862 Staffordshire
BISSEKER, Thomas Boarder M 26 1845 Staffordshire
Lyttleton Street, All Saints, West Bromwich
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:22 pm
by Jimmy
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1862.
BISSEKER William L. West Bromwich South West. Sandwell Register Office WBSW/37/357.
West Midlands Birth indexes for the years: 1863.
BISSEKER William. West Bromwich South West. Sandwell Register Office. WBSW/39/341.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:30 pm
by gardener
I wonder if John was married previously to a Sarah? Can someone fish out the 1861 and 1851?
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:31 pm
by Jimmy
1861.
Mary Bissaker.
[Mary E Brown].
[Mary Bisseker].
Age: 28.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1833.
Relation: Wife.
Spouse's Name: John Bissaker.
Gender: Female.
Where born: West Bromwich.
Civil parish: West Bromwich.
Ecclesiastical parish: Christchurch.
County/Island: Staffordshire.
Country: England.
Registration district: West Bromwich.
Sub-registration district: West Bromwich South West.
ED, institution, or vessel: 13.
Household schedule number: 79.
Piece: 2025.
Folio: 83.
Page Number: 15.
Household Members:
1861. West Bromwich.
John Bissaker 40. Forgeman.
Mary Bissaker 28.
Thomas Bissaker 18.
Eli Bessaker 14.
Charles Bessaker 12.
Joseph Bessaker 2.
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1853.
BISCAR John. BROWN Mary. Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office. 204/012/451.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:36 pm
by Jimmy
1851. More St, West Bromwich.
John Bissaker 40. Labourer.
Sarah Bissaker 46.
John Bissaker 13.
Thomas Bissaker 10.
Eli Bissaker 5.
Charles Bissaker 2.
All born West Bromwich.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:38 pm
by gardener
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:38 pm
by Jimmy
Poss,
Extracted,
JOHN BISSEKER
SARAH STOKES.
Marriage, 13 AUG 1832. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 2:49 pm
by Jimmy
1841. West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
Ralph Bipiker 77. Labourer. n.b.i.c.
John Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Mary Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Enoch Bipiker 21.
John Bipiker 6..
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 6:30 pm
by Northern Lass
Jimmy wrote:1841. West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
Ralph Bipiker 77. Labourer. n.b.i.c.
John Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Mary Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Enoch Bipiker 21.
John Bipiker 6..
Whois this one?
is Ralph father of Charles
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 8:50 pm
by Jimmy
Northern Lass wrote:Jimmy wrote:1841. West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
Ralph Bipiker 77. Labourer. n.b.i.c.
John Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Mary Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Enoch Bipiker 21.
John Bipiker 6..
Whois this one?
Possibly this one,
Jimmy wrote:1851. More St, West Bromwich.
John Bissaker 40. Labourer.
Sarah Bissaker 46.
John Bissaker 13.
Thomas Bissaker 10.
Eli Bissaker 5.
Charles Bissaker 2.
All born West Bromwich.
Re: John Bisseker and son William
Posted: Sun Jul 03, 2011 9:50 pm
by gardener
Jimmy wrote:Northern Lass wrote:Jimmy wrote:1841. West Bromwich, Staffordshire.
Ralph Bipiker 77. Labourer. n.b.i.c.
John Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Mary Bipiker 45. n.b.i.c.
Enoch Bipiker 21.
John Bipiker 6..
Whois this one?
Possibly this one,
Jimmy wrote:1851. More St, West Bromwich.
John Bissaker 40. Labourer.
Sarah Bissaker 46.
John Bissaker 13.
Thomas Bissaker 10.
Eli Bissaker 5.
Charles Bissaker 2.
All born West Bromwich.
I think those are different John´s.
Ralph Bissacre bpt 12 July 1764 St Philips, Birmingham; parents John and Margaret.
Ralph Bisseker married Ann Hobday 7th July 1788 Aston Juxta Birmingham
Children for Ralp and Ann:
James bpt 10 MAY 1789 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
John bpt 08 AUG 1791 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
William bpt 24 MAY 1793 Saint Phillips, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Charles bpt 14 SEP 1795 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
Maria bpt 02 JUL 1798 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England
William bpt 25 MAY 1801 All Saints, West Bromwich, Stafford, England died 14th Apr 1805
I think John 1791 is the one in the 1841 census married to Mary, son Enoch. He is aged 45 there but that could be rounded down even though Ralph's age isn't.
The John who married Sarah and then Mary E seems to be the one baptised 27th May 1810 at West Brom, parents Charles and Mary. He seems to have a brother William bapt 1808 so this Charles can hardly be another son of Ralph.