Genealogy Forum UK

Hi,

I read with interest on an old thread about the Liverpool Victoria Shipping Co sending a man to the Lye Waste in the early 1800's to enlist people to emigrate to America.

My questions are -
1) I wondered if there is any documented evidence of this any where on the internet or books I could read with more info about it?

2) my ancesters were the Bromyard family from Lye Waste, nailers. Ralph Bromyard mentions in his will on 1848 that his daughter Eliza Bromyard is living in America - hence my interest in this story - she married Mattias Smith in 1843 at Stourbridge. I wondered if anyone has any info on this family? I have looked for Eliza and Mattias on the 1881 free census for USA on familysearch, but I can only find one that may be Mattias married to another woman and none for Eliza. I couldn't find them on the passenger lists either as the one's that I have found are all too late.

Any suggestions or info much appreciated.

Thanks all,

Louise

Can you give some more info like when they were born and may be occupation?Possibly any childrens names?
Jo

Looking through the 1850 census onwards, I can find no suitable Mattias Smith in the USA.

I can't find a single one from the UK living in the USA.

The only one I can find in the immigrations records is from 1796!!

If I use the more common spelling of Matthias they are either from Germany or a couple from Ireland but none living with an Eliza.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1843.
SMITH Matthias. BROMYARD Eliza. Wordsley, Holy Trinity. Dudley Register Office. 018/002/35.

Eliza Bromyard.
Baptism/Christening Date: 07 Sep 1817.
Baptism/Christening Place: OLD SWINFORD,WORCESTER.
Father's Name: Ralph Bromyard.
Mother's Name: Mary.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C04027-3.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 527941.

Looks like it could be Broomyard,

1841. Green Lane, Old Swinford.
Ralph Bercomgham 70. Nailer.
Eliza Bercomgham 22.

The closest I can see is,

Home in 1860: Cascade, Lycoming, Pennsylvania.
Post Office: Williamsport.

Mathias Smith 40. Farmer. England
Eliza Smith 42. England.

HI AND THANKS TO ALL -

this is what i know on the family -

Ralph Bromyard b.c 1771 old swinford - married Mary Elwell in 1793 at Old Swinford.

They had the following children -
Ann 1793? - 1794?
Joseph 1795? - 1797?
Sarah 1798? - ? **
Elizabeth 1800? - ? **
John 1802 to 1879 married Sarah Williams **
Ralph 1804 - 1875 married Mary Hill **
Mary Ann 1806 - 1808
Jemima ?1808 **
Mary Ann 1810? **
Sebra 1813 -? **
Thomas 1815? - ?
Eliza 1817 -? married Mattias Smith and moved to America inbetween 1841 and 1847 **
Thomas Elwell ?1819 - ?

** are still living in 1847 though as mentioned in will of Ralph Bromyard

I don't know anymore info on Eliza and Mattias Smith unfortunately.

Thanks for looking at the USA census - looks like it could be them.

Thank you everybody for your help!
Louise

Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1843.
SMITH Matthias. BROMYARD Eliza. Wordsley, Holy Trinity. Dudley Register Office. 018/002/35..

Do you have details of this marriage.

no only the marriage index register.

Jimmy wrote:

Jimmy wrote:West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1843.
SMITH Matthias. BROMYARD Eliza. Wordsley, Holy Trinity. Dudley Register Office. 018/002/35..

Do you have details of this marriage.

If you post these marriage details on this following link, some one might be able to look it up at the archives,

viewtopic.php?f=85&t=304

also put a reference back to the original Topic.

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ard-Family
Is this the family ?

Found this doing Google search
http://sh1.webring.com/people/s3/3ra28145/f453.htm

is this completed?

flagging to archive unless otherwise advised