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*Archived* Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:05 am
by Sparky
Hi Everyone
Finally back on the air after the computer packed it in on me.
Can anyone who has access to any Parish Registers for Warwickshire help me with the witness names, or parents names for the marriage of the above 2 people. Marriage occured 8th June 1827 in Edgbaston.
Need help
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 12:21 pm
by Northern Lass
Good to see you back Sparky
Going to move a copy of this to the look request section too(when we finalise the church info)
Which Church is it Sparky?
Now if noone is going to Warks then it might be worth sending them an email- and it may be birmingham archives that covers this in fact I think it would be.
I can give you the details for Birmingham archives
You wont get the Parents on the marriage entry cos of the date ...too early...but you may get witnesses
So if we can pinpoint the church we can see if at Birmingham

Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 2:39 pm
by marie
Mary Ann Allchurch married Thomas Adams jun 8 1829 Edgbaston, Warwickshire
This is on the IGI as an extraction of the bishop's transcriptions for the parish church of Edgbaston so it may not have the witnesses names. You would need to get hold of the actual parish records for that period.
Do you have them on a census - were they both from Warwickshire?
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 3:43 pm
by Northern Lass
Ok they are at Birmingham archives
I think it would be this one
St James /St George are later
but B'ham archvies would help
St Bartholomew, EdgbastonC 1636-1955
M 1636-1969
B 1635-1887
Banns 1941-1975
? 1636-1872
Registers held at Birmingham Central LibrarySt Bartholomew, Edgbaston
St George, Edgbaston
St James, Edgbaston
all from the following link......
http://www.bham.de/index_churches.htmlput in parish records and hit search
this is a useful link tells you the churches in that area
and this is the link for Birmingham Archives
http://www.birmingham.gov.uk/GenerateCo ... NU_ID=5396
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Mon Jan 12, 2009 6:46 pm
by FarSide
Any help?
Title Registers of the church of St. Bartholomew, Edgbaston, Warwickshire
Authors Church of England. St. Bartholomew's Church (Edgbaston, Warwickshire) (Added Author)
Birmingham and Midland Society for Genealogy and Heraldry (Added Author)
Notes Contents: [v. 1.]. Marriages 1813-1831 -- [v. 2.]. Marriages 1832-1837 -- [v. 3.]. Baptisms, 1813-1837; late baptisms, 1838-1850; burials, 1813-1868.
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Includes index.
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:06 am
by Sparky
Hi Farside, Marie and NL
Thanks for your input. Looks like I will have to order the Parish Registers at the Latter Day Saints here and have a look. I found them on the 1841,1851,1861 Census but as yet no further than that. I have also found several references to him on different Directories. He lived in King Street Wolverhampton and had his shop in Queen Street employing 11 workers.
He was from Erdington north of Birmingham and she was from Wolverhampton, Staffordshire. They had several children, Sarah b 1829, George b1831 both these baptized at Carrs Lane Independent in Birmingham and then Ann b1834, Catherine b1836, Elizabeth b1841 and Mary b about 1839.
Catherine and Elizabeth were baptised at Queen Street Independent in Wolverhampton. It appears that Thomas Adams was one of the Trustees of the Union between the old Temple Street Church and the Queen Street Independent.
Sparky
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 7:39 am
by FarSide
Found this entry - possibly a coincidence
1861
134
Dudley Wood, Dudley
Thomas Allchurch Adams 32 - Farmer
Mary Jemima Adams 32 - Farmers wife
Thomas Allehurch Adams 18
Bloack Marona Adams 2 (Blanche Marena)
all b Dudley
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:26 pm
by peterd
found these
Place Cradley
Church St Peters
BaptismDate 10 Apr 1802
Forename Mary Ann
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname ALLCHURCH
MotherSurname ALLCHURCH
Place Cradley
Church St Peters
BaptismDate 02 Sep 1803
Forename George
FatherForename Thomas
MotherForename Sarah
FatherSurname ALLCHURCH
MotherSurname ALLCHURCH
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Tue Jan 13, 2009 6:29 pm
by peterd
also came across this dont know if it links in anywhere
Place Edgbaston
Church St. Bartholomew
MarriageDate 31 Jan 1808
GroomForename Henry
GroomSurname INGRAM
BrideForename Jane
BrideSurname ALLCHURCH
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:04 pm
by marie
On the LDS site - look at the library catalog for place name Edgbaston - there are only the bishop's transcripts, they don't have film of the registers for the date you need. You are going to have to find them elsewhere.
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:05 pm
by Northern Lass
It would be at birmingham archives then to see the actual registers
Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:53 pm
by mallosa
NL, I take it that this would be the info needed? ( I have never looked up Parish Records at the Archives)
Film or fiche number
0502273
Bishop's transcripts for Edgbaston, 1678-1838 Church of England. Parish Church of Edgbaston (Warwickshire)
If so, I don't mind popping along, as I'm local

Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 9:57 pm
by Northern Lass
If you go to the archives and ask to see the actual Parish register for Edgbaston
and the date that was posted ie 8th June 1827 in Edgbaston
and see what the entry says
St Bartholomew, Edgbaston
M 1636-1969
I think that is the correct church but they will help you

Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Wed Jan 14, 2009 11:40 pm
by mallosa
O'k, I'll try to pop in on my way home from work tomorrow, if not it will have to be Monday

Re: Thomas Adams and Mary Ann Allchurch
Posted: Thu Jan 15, 2009 6:44 am
by Sparky
Thank you so much everyone for your suggestions and I really do appreciate your efforts. I am going away for a week tomorrow so will check in when I get back.
Thanks heaps
Sparky