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Ok Staffies, in a reversion to a previous subject, I have a Maud Maria Haines, born on the 31st December 1874, appearing on the 1891 census at 23, South Terrace Ct, Littlehampton along with her parents, Philip Sidney Haines and Fanny Rogers and her elder brother Philip Sidney. I have a partial record for the census of 1881 that doesn't include her and after 1891 she seems to have disappeared. Can anyone find her for me? Did she have any further siblings? If so, what happened to them? And whilst you're at it can you find a 1911 census entry for her parents Philip & Fanny Haines and a death date for her elder brother Philip Sidney?

Entries I've found give both Philips with both one and two ls.

Thanks.

1901, 37, South Terrace, Littlehampton
Philip S. HAINES Head, M, 63, Mariner (Retired), born Jersey
Fanny HAINES Wife, M, 60, Lodging House Keeper, born Chesterton Wilts.
Maud Maria HAINES Daughter, S, born Preston Sussex
Josephine GRAVES, Visitor, Widow, 31, born London
Geoffrey GRAVES, Visitor, 7, born New Zealand
Fanny LEVERTON, Serv., S, 23, General Serv. Domestic, born Barnham Sussex

1901, 48, East Street, Littlehampton
Philip HAINES Head, M, 28, Tailor, born Gosport Hampshire
Edith HAINES Wife, M, 28, born Littlehampton Sussex.
Leslie HAINES Son, 3, born Littlehampton Sussex
Sidney HAINES Son, 1, born Littlehampton Sussex

Where did you get your 1881 census from?

1881 census transcription details for: 4, Coastguard Cottgs, Littlehampton
National Archive Reference:
RG number: RG11 Piece: 1120 Folio: 69 Page: 11

Reg. District: East Preston Sub District: Littlehampton
Parish: Littlehampton Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: 4, Coastguard Cottgs, Littlehampton
County: Sussex
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation ,Disability Where Born
HAINES, Phillip Sydney Head Married M 43 1838 Mariner Jersey Channel Islands
HAINES, Fanny Wife Married F 36 1845 Christian Malford Wiltshire
HAINES, Phillip Sydney Son Single M 8 1873 Scholar Gosport Hampshire
HAINES, Maria Maud Dar Single F 6 1875 Scholar Kingston Sussex
BIRD, Caroline Ann Visitor Single F 20 1861 Dressmaker Romney Kent
BIRD, Sarah Janes Visitor Single F 16 1865 Shop Assistant Bexhill Sussex

Maud's kick the bucket entry.

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HAINES, Maud M
Registration District: East Preston
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1913
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 38
Volume No: 2B
Page No: 465

Her dad's

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HAINES, Philip Sydney
Registration District: East Preston
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1902
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Age at death: 64
Volume No: 2B
Page No: 224

her mother's

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HAINES, Fanny
Registration District: East Preston
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1910
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Age at death: 68
Volume No: 2B
Page No: 199

her brother's

Civil Registration event: Death
Name: HAINES, Philip S
Registration District: Chichester
County: Sussex
Year of Registration: 1954
Quarter of Registration: Apr-May-Jun
Age at death: 81
Volume No: 5H
Page No: 446

Thanks Stonewaller and Mark.

I got the 1881 from here I think, or, more likely, it might have come from my cousin who did quite a bit of work a few years ago but only on direct line stuff so siblings tended to get ignored. I'll put that lot on the timeline and see if there are any other holes.

Interesting that there were only the two children for Philip and Fanny, others of that generation were having considerably more, although his time in the Navy might explain it.

Ah, I now have three or four different births for Fanny Haines (bang head against wall smiley)
I have an un-named female Rogers Dec 1840 Chippenham 8 280 from FreeBMD (which sort of matches with the 1901 census)
HAINES, Fanny Wife Married F 36 1845 Christian Malford Wiltshire from the 1881 census (which sort of matches the 1891 census)
Fanny Haines 42. Christian Malford, Wiltshire from the 1891 census
Fanny HAINES Wife, M, 60, Lodging House Keeper, born Chesterton Wilts. from the 1901 census

I can't think where I got the idea that Fanny might be Rogers unless it was simply the only suitable Wiltshire Fanny or it came from the aforementioned cousin.

Ah, this where I got Fanny Rogers from:
Marriages Dec 1871 (>99%)
Haines Philip Sidney Alverstoke 2b 917
Rogers Fanny Alverstoke 2b 917

Groom's Name: Philip Sidney Haines
Groom's Birth Date:
Groom's Birthplace:
Groom's Age:
Bride's Name: Fanny Rogers
Bride's Birth Date:
Bride's Birthplace:
Bride's Age:
Marriage Date: 20 Dec 1871
Marriage Place: Alverstoke,Hampshire,England
Groom's Father's Name:
Groom's Mother's Name:
Bride's Father's Name:
Bride's Mother's Name:
Groom's Race:
Groom's Marital Status:
Groom's Previous Wife's Name:
Bride's Race:
Bride's Marital Status:
Bride's Previous Husband's Name:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M07358-2
System Origin: England-ODM
Source Film Number: 918908
Reference Number:

This is Fanny's family in 1851.

In 1881 she says she was born in Christian Malford.

1851 census transcription details for: Church End, Christian Malford
National Archive Reference:
RG number: HO107 Piece: 1836 Folio: 744 Page: 26

Reg. District: Chippenham Sub District:
Parish: Christian Malford Enum. District:
Ecclesiastical District: City/Municipal Borough:
Address: Church End, Christian Malford
County: Wiltshire
Name Relation Condition Sex Age Birth Year Occupation , Disability Where Born
ROGERS, John Head Married M 53 1798 Gardener Calne Wiltshire
ROGERS, Ann Wife Married F 45 1806 Gardener's Wife Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Alfred Son Unmarried M 23 1828 Gardener Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Edwin Son Unmarried M 18 1833 Ag Lab Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Fanny Daughter - F 10 1841 Scholar Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Mary Daughter - F 7 1844 Scholar Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Harvey Son - M 5 1846 Scholar Gardener's Son Christian Malford Wiltshire
ROGERS, Jesse Son - M 2 1849 Gardener's Son Christian Malford Wiltshire

This would be her birth as Christian Maldon is in the registation district of Chippenham.

Civil Registration event: Birth
Name: ROGERS, Female (unnamed)
Registration District: Chippenham
County: Wiltshire
Year of Registration: 1840
Quarter of Registration: Oct-Nov-Dec
Mother's Maiden Name: Not available before 1911 Q3
Volume No: 8
Page No: 280

Thanks again Mark, so the little tinker started lying about her age - women

Ok, unless anyone can come up with anything more I'll go to the census lookup forum for a 1911 entry for Philip Sidney and Edith Matilda so I think this can be considered COMPLETED.

Thanks everyone.