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Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records? - COMPLETED

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 8:21 pm
by descartes46
Having traced my Baker line back 300 years my family tree is looking a bit lopsided as I am totally stumped on my grandfather's mother Helen Jane Macdonald.

I know Helen Jane Macdonald was b. 10 jan 1903, married my great-grandfather 9 jun 1926 (in Ootacamund, India) and died 3 mar 1973. On the wedding cert which was with my grandfather's papers it says she resided in Ootacamund (as a nurse) and that her father was Daniel Robert Macdonald. I cannot for the life of me find her birth certificatw on BMD / IGI or anywhere, or indeed any British records on her father! How is this possible when I have so many available details? I would love to explore her parents heritage and start working on that part of my family tree but I have hit a brick wall and have exhausted all avenues I can think of!

Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Descartes

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:02 pm
by snoopysue
Almost thourght I'd struck gold, but it was your tree on Ancestry!!

I've checked FMP and Ancestry and have found nothing. Did she live all her life in India?

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:06 pm
by snoopysue
Found this on Family Search:

Name: Ellen Jane Macdonald
Gender: Female
Baptism/Christening Date: 22 Apr 1903
Baptism/Christening Place: Oolacamund, Madras, India
Birth Date: 10 Jan 1903
Birthplace: Madras, India
Father's Name: Daniel Robert Macdonald
Mother's Name: Jane Louisa
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00071-8
System Origin: India-EASy
Source Film Number: 527466

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:15 pm
by snoopysue
Possible siblings:

Name:Cicel Eugene Macdonald
Birth Date:05 Jan 1899

Name:Ernest Walter Macdonald
Birth Date:10 Jan 1904

Name:Herbert Douglas Macdonald
Birth Date: 19 Oct 1906

Name:Kathleen Maud Macdonald
Birth Date: 06 Feb 1908

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:25 pm
by snoopysue
I can't find Daniel and Jane's marriage but there is this:

record title:India Marriages, 1792-1948
groom's name:Cecil Eugene Macdonald
groom's birth date:1899
groom's age:26
bride's name:Aileen Melinda Henegan
bride's birth date:1900
bride's age:25
marriage date:07 Jan 1925
marriage place:Madras, Madras, India
groom's father's name:Daniel Robert Macdonald
bride's father's name:Charles Alinander Henegan
indexing project (batch) number:M00112-9
system origin:India-EASy
source film number:463309

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:39 pm
by Jimmy
Daniel Robert Macdonald.
Gender: Male.
Burial Date: 27 Dec 1940.
Burial Place: Coimbatore, Madras, India.
Death Date: 26 Dec 1940.
Death Place:
Age: 69.
Birth Date: 1871.
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Unknown.
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00213-0.
System Origin: India-EASy.
Source Film Number: 527426.
Reference Number:

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:41 pm
by Jimmy
Jane Louisa Macdonald.
Gender: Female.
Burial Date: 17 Dec 1945.
Burial Place: Madras, Madras, India.
Death Date: 16 Dec 1945.
Death Place:
Age: 68.
Birth Date: 1877.
Birthplace:
Occupation:
Race:
Marital Status: Widowed.
Spouse's Name:
Father's Name:
Father's Birthplace:
Mother's Name:
Mother's Birthplace:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: B00213-6.
System Origin: India-EASy.
Source Film Number: 527431.
Reference Number:

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:45 pm
by Jimmy
Could this be the same one,

Daniel Robin Mcdonald.
Gender: Male.
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Apr 1872.
Baptism/Christening Place: Ootacamund, Madras, India.
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1871.
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Alexander Mcdonald.
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane.
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00069-7.
System Origin: India-EASy.
Source Film Number: 521860.
Reference Number:

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:50 pm
by snoopysue
Jimmy wrote:Could this be the same one,

Daniel Robin Mcdonald.
Gender: Male.
Baptism/Christening Date: 13 Apr 1872.
Baptism/Christening Place: Ootacamund, Madras, India.
Birth Date: 18 Nov 1871.
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Alexander Mcdonald.
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Jane.
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C00069-7.
System Origin: India-EASy.
Source Film Number: 521860.
Reference Number:


It's the right place and the date's in the area I'd expect.

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:52 pm
by snoopysue
Can you see a marriage Jimmy, I can't find one at all!!

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 9:58 pm
by Jimmy
I can't see a marriage.

Re: Helen Jane Macdonald - missing records?

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 10:23 pm
by descartes46
Guys, thank you soo much! I can't believe how great you've been. I can finally update my tree with some new details :D

Regards,
Descartes