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"completed" Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 5:08 pm
by expat66
Need help with another one of my many GREAVES!

This Martha was daughter of Austin GREAVES(1774-1862) and Frances COALES(1773-).... born in Harborne around 1816.

In June 1839...she is a witness( as Martha GREEN) on marriage certificate of Joseph HIPKISS and France GREAVES 22 Apr 1839
Groom Joseph HIPKISS, bachelor, locksmith living in Livery St- father Joseph HIPKISS(locksmith), bride Frances GREAVES,spinster, resident Bishopsgate St, father not recorded. Witnesses Joseph ?? and Martha GREEN

I haven't been able to find a marriage for Martha GREAVES to a Mr. GREEN...... can anyone else see one?

On the 1841 census.... I think I found her at..
Great Barr St, Aston, Warwickshire, England
Lott?(could be Josh?) HIPKISS(20)locksmith,
wife? Frances(20),
Ann (2),
Frances GREAVES(66) ,
Martha GREEN(25) gilder...only Josh & Ann born in County..

Then on 25th Dec 1858 she remarries...
William Freeman Birth: 1829 Bride: Martha Green Birth: 1819 Marriage: 25 Dec 1858 Birmingham, Warwick, England Groom's Father: John Freeman Bride's Father: Austin Greaves Marital Status: Widowed Film: 1520007 Collection: England Marriages, 1538-1

On the 1861 census I have
Birmingham, Warwickshire, England Wharf(?) St. 8 Court 4
Martha(electro-gilder) married to William FREEMAN(edge tool maker) Also at the address Sarah Freeman ( William's unmarried sister... she is a steel pen maker) and nephew William Freeman age 2

On the 1871 census I have...Aston, Warwickshire, England
Martha married to William FREEMAN( a toolmaker) Also at this address Martha's brother Matthew Greaves ( a machinist, married)

I would like to find out more about Martha..... when she married first time round?... who was her first husband and when did he die?
Where was she on the 1851 census?
and what happened to her after 1871?... haven't worked out when she died.
Also... haven't found any children for her so perhaps she didn't have any?

Hope someone can help me?
A second pair of eyes always seems to help!
Many Thanks
Expat :P

Re: Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:06 pm
by BC Wench
Found these on the IGI - Any good?

AUSTIN GREAVES married FRANCES COALES
24 NOV 1794 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Children of Austin & Frances Greaves:

ANN GREAVES
Christening: 02 JUN 1803 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Age at Christening: 1

JOSEPH GREAVES
Christening: 02 JUN 1803 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Age at Christening: 4

PHEBE GREAVES
Birth: 24 APR 1805
Christening: 03 OCT 1805 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

AUSTIN GREAVES
Birth: 01 JUL 1807
Christening: 01 OCT 1807 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

JOHN AUSTIN GREAVES
Birth: 12 DEC 1809
Christening: About 14 JUN 1810 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

MARTHA GREAVES
Christening: 21 MAY 1812 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Marriage:
MARTHA GREAVES
Spouse: WILLIAM GREEN
Marriage: 19 NOV 1832 Edgbaston, Warwick, England

I can't find a Martha Green on the 1851 census sorry. Did she knock off a few years of her age on the 1861 and 1871 censuses as she was a lot older than William Freeman? Just a thought.

Re: Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:40 pm
by grangers14
Is this her before marriage to William Freeman??

1851. Back Court Branstone? Street Birmingham
William Freeman, head, 32, Hinge Maker
Martha, wife, 35, Harbourne

Re: Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:44 pm
by expat66
grangers14 wrote:Is this her before marriage to William Freeman??

1851. Back Court Branstone? Street Birmingham
William Freeman, head, 32, Hinge Maker
Martha, wife, 35, Harbourne


Interesting!.....a few years before the marriage?
... wonder when Ist husband died?
Expat

Re: Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Tue Jun 07, 2011 7:45 pm
by expat66
BC Wench wrote:Found these on the IGI - Any good?

AUSTIN GREAVES married FRANCES COALES
24 NOV 1794 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Children of Austin & Frances Greaves:

ANN GREAVES
Christening: 02 JUN 1803 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Age at Christening: 1

JOSEPH GREAVES
Christening: 02 JUN 1803 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England
Age at Christening: 4

PHEBE GREAVES
Birth: 24 APR 1805
Christening: 03 OCT 1805 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

AUSTIN GREAVES
Birth: 01 JUL 1807
Christening: 01 OCT 1807 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

JOHN AUSTIN GREAVES
Birth: 12 DEC 1809
Christening: About 14 JUN 1810 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

MARTHA GREAVES
Christening: 21 MAY 1812 Saint Martin, Birmingham, Warwick, England

Marriage:
MARTHA GREAVES
Spouse: WILLIAM GREEN
Marriage: 19 NOV 1832 Edgbaston, Warwick, England

I can't find a Martha Green on the 1851 census sorry. Did she knock off a few years of her age on the 1861 and 1871 censuses as she was a lot older than William Freeman? Just a thought.



BCWench... that's brilliant!.... there's quite alot there that I don't have.... just working my way through it now
.......... thought some extra pairs of eyes would help!
Thanks
Expat :P

Re: Martha GREAVES (b.1816 Harborne)

Posted: Wed Jun 08, 2011 12:07 pm
by BC Wench
I've got 2 pair of eyes, my own and specs. :roll:

Glad to be of service.