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need an accurate dob and place of birth pls

27 Jun 1875 St Andrew Dudley
Henry CARTWRIGHT F B Miner Netherton Father Samuel Cartwright Nailer
Lucy Ann RAYBOULD F S Netherton Father William Raybould Chain Maker
Wit; Thomas Homer Hannah Homer


and for father Samuel

I think Henry has a sister Hannah as wits are Thomas Homer and Hannah Homer
and there is a marriage

1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Thomas CARTWRIGHT Hannah Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/004/217

1861 Cradley Road, Rowley Regis
CARTWRIGHT, Samuel Head Married M 57 1804 Nailor Lye Waste Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Wife Married F 33 1828 Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Nailor Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Ruth Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Son M 6 1855 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Mary Daughter F 5 1856 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Possible short marriage?

1881 New Road, Kingswinford (Stafford)
CARTWRIGHT, Samuel Head Married M 72 1809 Nailor Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Wife Married F 60 1821 Nailor Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Son Single M 37 1844 Lab White Brickyard Cradley Heath Staffordshire (I think this says MAR not UNMAR! on original)
CARTWRIGHT, Joel Son Single M 19 1862 Lab White Brickyard Cradley Heath Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Samuel Son Single M 4 1877 Cradley Heath Staffordshire

1871 Old House At Home, Cradley
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Head F 47 1824 Worcestershire Nailer
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Son M 16 1855 Staffordshire Miner
CARTWRIGHT, Mary A Daughter F 14 1857 Staffordshire Carrier of Bricks
CARTWRIGHT, Joel Son M 9 1862 Staffordshire

Possible remarriage? Daughter Esther after mother??

1891 Queen Street, Kingswinford, Quarry Bank
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 36 1855 Coal Miner Cradley Heath Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Hannah Wife Married F 36 1855 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Lily Daughter F 8 1883 Scholar Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Daughter F 5 1886 Scholar Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Jane Daughter F 1 1890 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
NEWTON, Caroline Visitor F 19 1872 Quarry Bank Staffordshire

1901 Queen Street, Quarry Bank (Stafford), Quarry Bank
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Head Married M 47 1854 Coal Miner Cradley Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Hannah Wife Married F 45 1856 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Lily Daughter Single F 18 1883 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Daughter Single F 15 1886 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Jane Daughter F 11 1890 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Bertie Son M 8 1893 Quarry Bank Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Ruth Daughter F 6 1895 Quarry Bank Staffordshire

This doesn't look good for Ruth

1911 Girls Training Home, Derby
CARTWRIGHT, Ruth Inmate Single F 16 1895 Staffordshire

Did Bertie lie about his age?

1911
1st Bn South Staffordshire Regiment, 1ST BATTALION SOUTH STAFFORDSHIRE REGIMENT, SOUTH BARRACKS, GIBRALTAR
Military details: Private Infantry 1st South Staffordshire Regt
CARTWRIGHT, Bertie Single ? 21 1890 Quarry Bank Staffs

1911 9 Park Road Pendleton Salford
NAYLOR, William Slater Head Married M 36 1875 Electrical Engineer Manager Limited Company India Calcutta Res
NAYLOR, Florence Agnes Wife Married 11 years F 35 1876 Norfolk Yarnmouth
NAYLOR, Charles Edgar Son M 10 1901 Mon Newport
NAYLOR, John Edward William Son M 9 1902 London St Pancras
NAYLOR, Ernest Phillott Son M 8 1903 London Kilburn
CARTWRIGHT, Jane Servant Single F 22 1889 General Servant Domestic Staffs Quarry Bank

Possible marriages??

1903
CARTWRIGHT Esther DAVIS Archie J Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/003/388

1905
CARTWRIGHT Lily PRICE John Quarry Bank, Christ Church Dudley Register Office 016/003/456

So this Henry Cartwright marries Lucy Ann Raybould

she dies before 1881 and this Lucy is not the one with father William and mother Rosannah

this is another Lucy

can we find

-a death betw 1875 and 1877 pls for Lucy ann

- 2nd marrige for Henry

-are any of them on Bcc already

-pls can someone help me add this lot

Maths girl wrote:1861 Cradley Road, Rowley Regis
CARTWRIGHT, Samuel Head Married M 57 1804 Nailor Lye Waste Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Esther Wife Married F 33 1828 Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 13 1848 Nailor Cradley Worcestershire
CARTWRIGHT, Ruth Daughter F 9 1852 Scholar Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Henry Son M 6 1855 Rowley Regis Staffordshire
CARTWRIGHT, Mary Daughter F 5 1856 Rowley Regis Staffordshire

Thanks MG for all these

can we find this couple in 1851 pls

poss marrige
1848
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
CARTWRIGHT Samuel GROVES Esther Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/008/365


where is he in 1841

Need SAmuel and Esther Cartwright in 1851 pls

if Henry son is born 1844 then they married after he is born

marriage

1st January 1848 St Thomas Dudley
Samuel Cartwright of full age bach Engine man Dudley Henry Cartwright deceased nailer
Esther Groves of full age spinster Dudley James Groves miner
banns
X both
Wit- X Jesse ??/ X Elizabeth Groves

can't see a Samuel Cartwright that fits nor Esther Grove/s on BCC
nor fathers


also Samuel and father Henry on 1841 pls

I will add them Northern Lass if no one else is.

Annie

Other marriages for this family

if anyone wishes to run with grooms side pls open new thread or this will
become confusing

1. Esther dau of Henry Cartwright

30th August 1903 Christchurch Quarry Bank
Archie Joseph Davis 20 bach miner Quarry Bank William Henry Davis miner
Esther Cartwright 19 Spinster Quarry Bank Henry Cartwright miner
Banns
both signed
Wit- John Price / Lily Cartwright

2..Lily dau of Henry Cartwright

23 July 1905 Christchurch Quarry Bank
John Price 26 bach Ironworker Quarry Bank James Thomas Price deceased Ironworker
Lily Cartwright 22 spinster Quarry Bank Henry Cartwright Coal miner
banns
both signed
Wit- Archie Davis /Annie Danks

Annie wrote:I will add them Northern Lass if no one else is.

Annie

If you are sure that would be great thanks

Northern Lass wrote:need an accurate dob and place of birth pls

27 Jun 1875 St Andrew Dudley
Henry CARTWRIGHT F B Miner Netherton Father Samuel Cartwright Nailer
Lucy Ann RAYBOULD F S Netherton Father William Raybould Chain Maker
Wit; Thomas Homer Hannah Homer


and for father Samuel

I think Henry has a sister Hannah as wits are Thomas Homer and Hannah Homer
and there is a marriage

1869
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
HOMER Thomas CARTWRIGHT Hannah Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/004/217

and marriage for wits

he may be on ie the Homers
doh!


14 Mar 1869 St Andrew Dudley
Thomas HOMER F B Horse Nailer Netherton Father John Homer Horse Nailer
Hannah CARTWRIGHT F S Netherton Father Samuel Cartwright Nailer
Wit; Henry Weaver David Mackay


again if we want to run with Homers open new fred pls

all marriages are courtesy of RF

Northern Lass wrote:

Annie wrote:I will add them Northern Lass if no one else is.

Annie

If you are sure that would be great thanks

Will start it now and finish it after our evening meal.

Annie

thanks annie