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I have an Emma Hartill born in 1861. In 1911 she's living with her cousin Emma Clarke (maiden name Bradley):

1911 Census RG14PN17440 RG78PN1067 RD372 SD4 ED17 SN329
38 Vicar Street Dudley
Emma Clarke, Head, Widow,20 years married, 3 children born, 3 children living, 46, Tailoring Button Holes, Staffs Sedgley
Edmund, Son, Single, 19, Warehouseman Clothing, Worc Dudley
William, Son, Single, 16, Porter Costumier, Worc Dudley
Emma Hartil, Cousin, Single, 50, Tailoress, Staffs Sedgley

From here I think I've found her in 1901:
1901 Census RG13 piece 2747 folio 7 page 5
16, Vicar Street, Dudley, Staffordshire
Albert Freeman, Head, Mar, 35, Tailor
Sarah, Wife, Mar, 34, Staffs Sedgley
Dora, Daur, 4,
Lottie, Daur, 2,
William V, Son, 11 months,
Emma Hartill, Sister-In-Law, Single, 40, Tailoress, Staffs Sedgley
Others born Worcs, Dudley


I think I have Emma Hartills parents as Ezra Hartill and Hannah Unknown.
And from there I have possibly found Ezra on BCC:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

What I'm trying to do is find the connection between Emma Hartill and her Cousin Emma Bradley. Can anyone help??

I'm in the process of adding what I'm sure of - I'll post the link later

Here's the link for Emma Bradley:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

I'll add the other census records and children later.

Wolverhampton marriages
12 Aug 1846 St.Peters
HARTILL Ezra full b Stone mason Wolverhampton W.Hartill Stone mason
BENNETT Hannah full s Wolverhampton J.Bennett Deceased

1891 21 Mournhill ? Sedgley
Hannah Hartill Head Wid 63
John Hartill Son S 33 Bricklayers Labourer
Emma Hartill Daur S 30 Seemstress
Ezio Hartill Son S 24 Stone Mason
Sarah Hartill Daur S 22 Seemstress
All Born Sedgley

1881 21 Moden Hill Sedgley
Ezra Hartill Head Mar 52 Stone Mason
Hannah Hartill Wife Mar 52
John Hartill Son Unm 24 Labourer General
Emma Hartill Daur Unm 21 Tailoress
William Hartill Son Unm 18 Nail Merchants Apprentice
Ezra Hartill Son 15 Stone Masons Apprentice
Sarah Ann Hartill Daur 12 Scholar
All Born Sedgley

1871 21 Moden Hill Road Sedgley
Israel Hartell Head Mar 42 Stone Mason
Hannah Hartell Wife Mar 43 Nailer
Mary Ann Hartell Daur Unm 16 Nailer
John Hartell Son 14 Nailer
Emma Hartell Daur 11 Scholar
William Hartell Son 8 Scholar
Isra Hartell Son 5 Scholar
Abram Hartell Son 2
All Born Sedgley

1861 Moden Hill Sedgley
Eged Hartell Head Mar 32 Stone Mason
Hannah Hartell Wife Mar 33
Elizabeth Hartell Daur 31 (13 on image)
Job Hartell Son 11
Rebecca Hartell Daur 9
Mary A Hartell Daur 7
John Hartell Son 4
Emma Hartell Daur 1
All Born Sedgley

1851 Moden Hill Sedgley
Ezra Hartill Head Mar 22 Stone Mason
Hannah Hartill Wife 23
Elizabeth Hartill Daur 3
Jobe Hartill Son 1
All Born Sedgley

Possible 1841 for Hannah and Emma
Moden Hill Sedgley
Hanah Bennett 42 Nailer Sedgley, Staffordshire
Sarah Bennett 15 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Hanah Bennett 13 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Harriot Bennett 12 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Mary Bennett 8 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Emma Bennett 4 Sedgley, Staffordshire

kdw wrote:Possible 1841 for Hannah and Emma
Moden Hill Sedgley
Hanah Bennett 42 Nailer Sedgley, Staffordshire
Sarah Bennett 15 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Hanah Bennett 13 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Harriot Bennett 12 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Mary Bennett 8 Sedgley, Staffordshire
Emma Bennett 4 Sedgley, Staffordshire

Sarah Bennett.
Baptism/Christening Date: 18 Dec 1825.
Baptism/Christening Place: Sedgley, Stafford.
Father's Name: Joseph Bennett.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02171-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040789.
Reference Number: item 1 p 60.

Hannah Bennett.
Baptism/Christening Date: 06 Apr 1828.
Baptism/Christening Place: Sedgley, Stafford.
Father's Name: Joseph Bennett.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02171-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040789.
Reference Number: item 1 p 181.

Harriet Bennett.
Baptism/Christening Date: 10 Jan 1830.
Baptism/Christening Place: Sedgley, Stafford.
Father's Name: Joseph Bennett.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C02171-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040789.
Reference Number: item 2 p 65.

Mary Bennett.
Baptism/Christening Date: 09 Jun 1833.
Baptism/Christening Place: SEDGLEY, STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Joseph Bennett.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14573-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040789.
Reference Number: item 2 p 212.

Emma Bennett.
Baptism/Christening Date: 04 Dec 1836.
Baptism/Christening Place: SEDGLEY, STAFFORD.
Father's Name: Joseph Bennett.
Mother's Name: Hannah.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C14573-1.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1040789.
Reference Number: item 3 p 117.

There's this on family search:

Groom's Name: Joseph Bennett
Bride's Name: Hannah Lowe
Marriage Date: 27 Aug 1820
Marriage Place: Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M02061-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 350577
Reference Number: 177

I can never remember if EASy is submitted or extracted though!
There are a few other Joseph Bennett's married to Hannah's, but this matches best geographically!

1841 Census
Cottwallend, Sedgley, Staffs
William Hartle, 40, Stone Mason,
Elisabeth, 40,
Richard, 18,
John, 16,
Mary, 14,
Esera, 12,
Rhuben, 10,
Rebecca, 8,
Job, 6,
Emma, 3,
All born in county

Cotwall End is the same area as Moden Hill, as this 1891 census for Ezra's wife shows:

1891 Census
21, Moden Hill, Sedgley, Cotwall End, Staffordshire
Hannah Hartill, Head, Widow, 63,
John, Son, Single, 33, Bricklayers Labourer,
Emma, Daur, Single, 33, Seamstress,
Ezra, Son, Single, 24, Stone Mason,
Sarah, Daur, Single, 22, Seamstress,
All born Staffs, Sedgley

This is what we've got so far:

Joseph Bennett (1800) and Hannah(1799) (possibly Lowe) had daughters Hannah(1829) and Emma(1836).
Hannah Bennett marries Ezra Hartill(1829) in 1846:

From family search:
Groom's Name: Ezra Hartill
Bride's Name: Hannah Bennett
Marriage Date: 12 Aug 1846
Marriage Place: St. Peter, Wolverhampton, Stafford, England
Groom's Father's Name: W. Hartill
Bride's Father's Name: J. Bennett
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I03185-4
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040904
Reference Number: 77

Name:HARTILL, Ezra/ BENNETT, Hannah
Registration District: Wolverhampton
County: Staffordshire
Year of Registration: 1846
Quarter of Registration: Jul-Aug-Sep
Volume No: 17
Page No: 357

Ezra's the son of William and Elizabeth Hartill:
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ill-Family

Ezra and Hannah have (amongst others ) a daughter Emma Hartill (1861). While still with parents Emma's occupation is Tailoress/ Seamstress.

Joseph and Hannah's other daughter Emma Bennett married Isaiah Bradley(1837):
24 Jul 1854. St Martin (Pepper Box) Tipton. Isaiah BRADLEY 20 B Bricklayer, Workhouse Lane, Father Isaac Bradley Bricklayer. Emma BENNETT, 19, Workhouse Lane, Father (Blank)--- Wit; Job Williams? William Bradley.

They have daughter (amongst others) Emma Bradley (1863). Emma Bradley marries John Clark.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ett-Family

In 1911 Emma Bradley is a widow and has her cousin Emma Hartill living with her:
38 Vicar Street Dudley
Emma Clarke, Head, Widow,20 years married, 3 children born, 3 children living, 46, Tailoring Button Holes, Staffs Sedgley
Edmund, Son, Single, 19, Warehouseman Clothing, Worc Dudley
William, Son, Single, 16, Porter Costumier, Worc Dudley
Emma Hartil, Cousin, Single, 50, Tailoress, Staffs Sedgley


Does this all make sense?
The only thing that worries me is that Emma Bennett has no father recorded on her marriage record - could this be because he's died by this point? There are certainly many death records to chose from for Joseph Bennett!!
What do you all think?

Have you added Hannah Bennett to Ezra yet ?

I think Hannah and Emma are sisters dont know why no father on Emmas marriage cert

kdw wrote:Have you added Hannah Bennett to Ezra yet ?

I think Hannah and Emma are sisters dont know why no father on Emmas marriage cert

I haven't connected anything up yet, really wanted to hear if others agree with me, especially due to lack of father on Emma's marriage cert!

I'll add what I'm certain of, then put a note on about the uncertain bits!!

Might be next week befor I get a chance, bit tied up this weekend. I'll put the link on when it's done!!

Ooh! It might get even more complex, Sue...

According to an Ancestry tree, William Hartill is married to Elizabeth BENNETT (22 May 1820). He was previously married to a Hannah Unknown.
A sister of William, Nancy Hartill, married Isaac BRADLEY and they had a son Isaiah Bradley who married a Selina Ann Unknown and ... Emma BENNETT.

Looks like the Hartills, Bradleys and Bennetts got on well then?

Sorry, perhaps you didn't need any more puzzles?

dianel wrote:Ooh! It might get even more complex, Sue...

According to an Ancestry tree, William Hartill is married to Elizabeth BENNETT (22 May 1820). He was previously married to a Hannah Unknown.
A sister of William, Nancy Hartill, married Isaac BRADLEY and they had a son Isaiah Bradley who married a Sarah Ann Unknown. This Isaiah and Sarah Ann are said to be the parents of an Emma Bradley, born 1862 in Sedgley.

Looks like the Hartills, Bradleys and Bennetts got on well then?

Sorry, perhaps you didn't need any more puzzles?

I've several Bradleys in my tree, and if I remeber rightly there's a Samuel Hartill as a witness to one of the marriages - not sure where he fits in. Nancy Hartill is a direct descendant of mine, does that tree say who Nancy's parents are, as I've found nothing definate as yet? I've not got everything on BCC yet, as I'm in the process of double checking what I've got.