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Heapy/ Downs Families ....help needed please?
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:11 pm
by dolly
I can't find Mary Ann in 1881 Can anyone help please? According to her marriage registration her father was Joseph Downs.
Also have 1911 census missing, although she may have died before then which is probably why. Thanks.
1891 Census:
The Ivys, Axedge Green, Quarnford
WOOD, Samuel Head Widower M 48 1843 Quarryman Quarnford Staffordshire
WOOD, Elizabeth E Daughter Single F 9 1882 Scholar Quarnford Staffordshire
HEAPY, Mary Ann Servant Single F 17 1874 Domestic Servant Quarnford Staffordshire
1901 Census
Hollinsclough, Staffordshire.
Samuel Wood 58. Farmer. Quarnford, Staffordshire.
Mary Ann Wood 28. Wife. Quarnford, Staffordshire.
Earnest Wood 8. Son. Hollinsclough, Staffordshire
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:56 pm
by rockyfowler
1881
HEAPY, Susannah Head Widow F 67 1814 Farmer Of 23 Acres Of Land
Quarnford
Staffordshire
HEAPY, Eliza Step Daughter Single F 26 1855 Empd At Home (Dom)
Quarnford
Staffordshire
DOWNES, Joseph Son Single M 34 1847 Genl Farm Labourer
Quarnford
Staffordshire
HEAPEY, Mary A Step Daurs Child Single F 7 1874 Scholar
Quarnford
Staffordshire
Angrack, Quarnford
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 4:57 pm
by snoopysue
Is this it?
Angrack, Quarnford
HEAPY, Susannah Head Widow F 67 1814 Farmer Of 23 Acres Of Land Quarnford Staffordshire
HEAPY, Eliza Step Daughter Single F 26 1855 Empd At Home (Dom) Quarnford Staffordshire
DOWNES, Joseph Son Single M 34 1847 Genl Farm Labourer Quarnford Staffordshire
HEAPEY, Mary A Step Daurs Child Single F 7 1874 Scholar Quarnford Staffordshire
Next on the census:
Adders Green, Quarnford
HEAPY, Josephus Head Single M 72 1809 Farmer Of 90 Acres Of Land Quarnford Staffordshire
DOWNES, Nathan Son Single M 36 1845 (Farmer Son) Employed On Farm Quarnford Staffordshire
Don't quite get how the Heapy's and Downes connect. If you search under Heapy and Downes for Leek there are loads of them farming in Quarnford!
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:11 pm
by Jimmy
1871. Hen Roach, Quarnford, Staffordshire.
Samuel Heapy 60. Farmer of 25 Acres.
Susannah Heapy 56.
Eliza Heapy 16. Dau. Umn.
All born Quarnford.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:16 pm
by Jimmy
Births Sep 1873.
Heapy Mary Ann. Leek. 6b. 304.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:18 pm
by Jimmy
Extracted on IGI.
Samuel Heapy.
Groom's Birth Date: 1813.
Groom's Age: 56.
Bride's Name: Susannah Downes.
Bride's Birth Date: 1816.
Bride's Age: 53.
Marriage Date: 24 Apr 1869.
Marriage Place: Allstonefield, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Matthew Moss.
Bride's Father's Name: John Downes.
Groom's Marital Status: Widowed.
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01041-3.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1278802.
Reference Number: p243 cn486.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 5:43 pm
by dolly
Thankyou This has taken me ages to work out but from what I can see is that Eliza, Samuel Heapy's daughter is Mary Ann's mother
Eliza is down as daughter in 1871 as Samuel is head
In 1881 Eliza is down as step daughter to Susannah who is now head so she was Samuel's daughter but not Susannah's
and Mary Ann is down as step daughter's child which would make Eliza her mother
The other child, Joseph is Susannah's real child which is why he is Downes
So as Mary Ann's father was Joseph Downs then I would assume that Eliza married a Joseph Downs at some point (hopefully not her stepbrother
I could be totally wrong....has anyone got any other suggestions?? Thanks

Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 7:35 pm
by linell
I would think that Joseph Downs would be Mary Ann's father if they were living in the same household, and not blood relations. Or Joseph's name was on Mary Ann's Marriage Entry because Mary Ann wanted to make it look as though she wasn't illegitimate

Linell.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:06 pm
by Jimmy
1861. Whetstone Hole, Quarnford.
Samuel Downes 42. Farmer 11 acres.
Savannah Downes 44. Sister. Umn. looks like Susannah.
John Downes 25. Nephew. Collier.
All born Quarnford.
1851. Whetstone Ole, Quarnford.
Samuel Downs 33. Farmer. Unm.
Susannah Downs 36. Sister. Unm.
John Downs 15. Nephew.
Matthew Downs 6. Nephew.
Joseph Downs 4. Nephew.
All born Quarnford.
1841. Greensitch Bottom, Allstonefield.
John Downes 60. Joiner.
Susanna Downes 25.
Samuel Downes 25.
Ann Downes 12.
John 5.
All born in county.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:12 pm
by Jimmy
Susanah Downes.
Baptism/Christening Date: 30 Oct 1814.
Baptism/Christening Place: QUARNFORD,STAFFORD.
Father's Name: John Downes.
Mother's Name: Ann.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: C03947-4.
System Origin: England-ODM.
Source Film Number: 435829.
Reference Number:
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:40 pm
by Jimmy
1891. Quarnford.
Joseph Downes 44. Farmer.
Eliza Downes 37. Wife.
Edith Downes 6. Dau.
Olive Downes 1. Dau.
All born Quarford.
Marriages Sep 1883.
BONSALL Ann Ellen. Ashbourne. 7b. 925.
BONSALL Emma. Ashbourne. 7b. 925.
DOWNS Joseph. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
HEAPY Eliza. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
SUTTON William. Ashborne. 7b. 925.
Joseph Downs.
Groom's Birth Date: 1846.
Groom's Age: 37.
Bride's Name: Eliza Heapy.
Bride's Birth Date: 1855.
Bride's Age: 28.
Marriage Date: 20 Aug 1883.
Marriage Place: Allstonefield, Stafford.
Groom's Father's Name: Josephus Heapy.
Bride's Father's Name: Samuel Heapy.
Groom's Marital Status: Single,
Bride's Marital Status: Single.
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M01041-3.
System Origin: England-EASy.
Source Film Number: 1278802.
Reference Number: p64 cn128.
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 5:24 am
by Antie Em
Is this Census topic complete dolly - or shall I move it to general discussion
Maggie
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:12 am
by dolly
Hi
It's nowhere near complete i'm afraid. I can't seem to work out what's going on here
I think I will have to take it a step at a time.
On the marriage of Samuel Heapy to Susannah Downes, Samuel's marital status is widowed so he must have been married before. Can anyone find this marriage for me as I think this would be Eliza's mother???
Thankyou
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 8:32 am
by Antie Em
Moving to General Discussion - can you change the title please dolly?
Re: 1881 Lookup please Mary Ann Heapy
Posted: Fri May 13, 2011 9:24 am
by Jimmy
Jimmy wrote:1871. Hen Roach, Quarnford, Staffordshire.
Samuel Heapy 60. Farmer of 25 Acres.
Susannah Heapy 56.
Eliza Heapy 16. Dau. Umn.
All born Quarnford.
Same Samuel different wife. looks like Heapey on image.
1861. Hen Roach, Quarford.
Samuel Heafey 50. Farmer of 30 Acres.
Betty Heafey 49.
Samuel Heafey 20. Son. Coal miner.
Mary Ann Heafey 13. Dau.
Elizabeth Heafey 11. Dau
William Heafey 17. Son. Ag lab.
Eliza Heafey 6. Dau.
All born Quarnford.