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ARC TBC..........Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas,

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 6:46 pm
by peterd
Spare look up by RF

20th October 1873, St Thomas, Dudley

John Smith - 37 - B - Miner - Dudley - Samuel Smith (deceased) Brewer
Elizabeth Morgan - 27 - Sp - Dudley - William Morgan (deceased) Engineer

wit Sarah Morgan & James Bride ?

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:20 pm
by kdp
1881 census
Address: Franchise St, Wednesbury

SMITH, John Head Married M 45 1836 Labourer In Forge Bilston Staffordshire
SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 34 1847 Tipton Staffordshire
SMITH, Samuel Son Single M 6 1875 Scholar Wednesbury Staffordshire
SMITH, Martha Daughter Single F 3 1878 Wednesbury Staffordshire
SMITH, John Son Single M 2 1879 Wednesbury Staffordshire


Of all John and Elizabeths this looks most likely..to me anyway? :grin:

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:25 pm
by kdp
1891 census
Address: Bk 27, Franchise Street, Wednesbury, Moxley

SMITH, John Head Married M 54 1837 Laborer Bilston Staffordshire
SMITH, Elizabeth Wife Married F 44 1847 Dudley Port Staffordshire
SMITH, Samuel Son Single M 16 1875 Driller Wednesbury Staffordshire
SMITH, Martha E Daughter Single F 13 1878 Button Screwer Wednesbury Staffordshire
SMITH, John Son Single M 12 1879 Wednesbury Staffordshire
SMITH, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 7 1884 Wednesbury Staffordshire

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:29 pm
by kdp
:?:

1861 census

Address: Little Heath, Foleshill
MORGAN, William Head Married M 36 1825 Iron Foundry France
MORGAN, Catharine Wife Married F 34 1827 Tipton Staffordshire
MORGAN, Elizabeth Daughter F 15 1846 Scholar Tipton Staffordshire
MORGAN, Samuel Son M 10 1851 Scholar West Bromwich Staffordshire

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:35 pm
by kdp
1851 census

Address: Oldbury Lane, West Bromwich

MORGAN, William Head Married M 26 1825 Iron Moulder France (British Subject)
MORGAN, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 5 1846 Tipton Staffordshire
MORGAN, Catharine Wife Married F 25 1826 Tipton Staffordshire
MORGAN, William Son M (UN DAYS ER 1 MOS) West Bromwic Staffordshire
WALL, Mary A Servant Unmarried F 17 1834 Servant West Bromwich Staffordshire

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:42 pm
by kdp
Possible???

1841 census
Address: Quarry Lane, Tipton

GEAST, Henry M 50 1791 Staffordshire
GEAST, Mary F 45 1796 Staffordshire
GEAST, Mary F 10 1831 Staffordshire
GEAST, Julia F 5 1836 Staffordshire
WHITEHOUSE, Josh M 55 1786 Staffordshire

SMITH, Rosannah F 25 1816 Staffordshire
SMITH, John M 5 1836 Staffordshire
SMITH, Joseph M 2 1839 Staffordshire

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:49 pm
by kdp
???
Marriages Sep 1845
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MORGAN William W Bromwich 18 600
Nickols Catharine West Bromwich 18 600

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:51 pm
by kdp
A lot of Possibles there, dont know if that helps..John Smith :roll:

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:53 pm
by kdp
1871 census
Address: Bridge Road, Great, West Bromwich

MORGAN, William Head M 46 1825 France
MORGAN, Catherine Wife F 44 1827 Staffordshire

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 7:55 pm
by peterd
though wit sarah might be elizabeth sister ?

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:00 pm
by kdp
Name: John Smith
Gender: Male
Baptism/Christening Date: 16 Mar 1836
Baptism/Christening Place: St Leonard's, Stafford, England
Birth Date:
Birthplace:
Death Date:
Name Note:
Race:
Father's Name: Samuel Smith
Father's Birthplace:
Father's Age:
Mother's Name: Martha
Mother's Birthplace:
Mother's Age:
Indexing Project (Batch) Number: I02190-0
System Origin: England-EASy
Source Film Number: 1040826
Reference Number: yr 1836-1870 p 14
Collection: England Births and Christenings, 1538-1975

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Sun May 08, 2011 8:02 pm
by kdp
peterd wrote:though wit sarah might be elizabeth sister ?



Thats what I was hopeing? for too..Nothing obvious coming up tho..and theres no kids with them in 71..

I may have confused matters more with these..Maybe totally wrong, but to me, these were ones that seemed right :?

Re: Elizabeth Morgan / John Smith - St Thomas, Black Country

Posted: Thu May 12, 2011 9:13 am
by Northern Lass
are you still running with this

unless otherwise advised will move to archived