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Hi Could you possibly look up Jane Rice in 1901 & 1911 please

43 Holborn St, Liverpool.

John Rice 39. Dock labourer.
Mary Rice 38.
Jane Rice 14.
John Rice 11

Thankyou

1901

Address 43 Holborn Street

John Rice Head 49 abt 1852 Male Liverpool Lancashire England (Occ- Navvy)
Mary Rice Wife 49 abt 1852 Female Liverpool Lancashire England
John Rice Son 21 abt 1880 Male Liverpool Lancashire England (Occ- Navvy)

Oh no Where did Jane go???
I know she married a Thomas Kirk in 1910 so would be Jane Kirk in 1911 and living with him

I tried looking for Jane Rice, but Ancestry throws up over 1000 respondants with a DOB of 1873+/-2. Was she definately born in Liverpool?

She may have been staying with a relative, working as a servant...

Unless I'm doing something really stupid, Ancestry doesn't have a great deal of access to 1911!

Loakesy wrote:I tried looking for Jane Rice, but Ancestry throws up over 1000 respondants with a DOB of 1873+/-2. Was she definately born in Liverpool?

She may have been staying with a relative, working as a servant...

Unless I'm doing something really stupid, Ancestry doesn't have a great deal of access to 1911!

Ancestry hasn't got full details of 1911 on yet -- you need FMP for full access -- Ancestry is aiming to have it on later this year I think!

Maths girl wrote:
Ancestry hasn't got full details of 1911 on yet -- you need FMP for full access -- Ancestry is aiming to have it on later this year I think!

Phew! It's not just me then!!!

Yes she was definately born Liverpool as I have the
1881 Census:
John RICE Head M Male 28 Liverpool Labourer
Mary RICE Wife M Female 27 Liverpool
Thomas RICE Brother U Male 19 Liverpool Labourer
Jane RICE Daur Female 4 Liverpool
John RICE Son Male 1 Liverpool
William COLEMAN Brother In Law M Male 22 Liverpool Labourer
Jane COLEMAN Sister M Female 25 Liverpool
Sarah COLEMAN Daur (Niece) Female 2 Liverpool
William COLEMAN Son (Nephew) Male 1 m Liverpool

4C 1H Low Wood St.
West Derby, Lancashire.

What a shame about the 1911 I thought it may have shed some light

They aren't at 43 Holborn Street in 1911.

There doesn't seem to be anything definate, I'll list what I can find:

RICE, John Head Married M 57 1854 Board Trade Inspector Nanehad St Class Plymouth Devon
RICE, John R Son Single M 25 1886 Clerk In Cunard Shipping Office Hull Yorks
RICE, Annie H Wife Married 27 years F 56 1855 Hull Yorks
CARR, Elizabeth Servant Single F 23 1888 Household Domestic General Galway Resident Hire

Wife doesn't match up though!

36 Low Wood St Liverpool

RICE, John Husband Married M 60 1851 Building Material Works Liverpool Lancs
RICE, Sarah Ann Wife Married 3 years F 41 1870 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Ellen Elizabeth Daughter Single F 16 1895 Servant General Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Charles William Son Single M 14 1897 Aprentice To Stone Manson Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Henry Joseph Son M 12 1899 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Thomas George Son M 10 1901 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Gertrude Daughter F 7 1904 Liverpool Lancs
GRAY, Thomas Son M 2 1909 Liverpool Lancs
BYRNES, Michael Boarder Single M 53 1858 Dock Labourer Liverpool Lancs

Again wife doesn't match, but if Mary had died he could have remarried.
On image it has him as having 6 children still living and 2 dead.
Sarah Ann has 5 born but only 1 still living and none dead - who are those kids on the census then? It doesn't make sense!!

Possible for Jane 1901

1901 48, Serpentine Road, Liscard
CURMEN, John Head Married M 48 1853 Ship Guilder Liverpool Lancashire
CURMEN, Edith Wife Married F 41 1860 Liverpool Lancashire
RICE, Jane Servant Single F 25 1876 Genl Serv Domestic Liverpool Lancashire

Looks promising!

Do you have that marriage to Thomas 1910 or are you going from an index?

This is the most promising Jane Kirk I can find but wrong husband

1911 51 Belper St Garston
KIRK, Andrew Head Married M 32 1879 Ship Boiler Maker And Rivetter Liverpool Lancs
KIRK, Jane Wife Married 6 years F 34 1877 Liverpool Lancs
KIRK, Geoffrey Son Married M 5 1906 Garston Lancs
KIRK, Leslie Son M 3 1908 Garston Lancs

or did you mistype?

1911 39 Baines Place Everton Liverpool
KIRK, Thomas Head Married M 42 1869 Joiner Kirkcudbright Shire Resident
KIRK, Jane Wife Married 9 years F 34 1877 Lancashire Bootle
KIRK, Alexander Son M 7 1904 School Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, William Henry Son M 6 1905 School Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, Elizabeth Daughter F 4 1907 Lancashire Liverpool
KIRK, Thomas Son M 2 1909 Lancashire Liverpool

Lancashire Marriage indexes for the years: 1910,
RICE Jane. KIRK Thomas E. West Derby, Register Office or Registrar Attended. Liverpool REG_WD/264/141.

Probably told a porkie on census.

Name missing on Freebmd.
Marriages Dec 1910.
Jones Robert. W. Derby. 8b. 835.
Kirk Thomas E. W.Derby. 8b. 835.
Morris Gertrude A. W Derby 8b. 835.
Potts Malcolm. W Derby. 8b. 835.
Wilson Emilia. W.Derby. 8b. 835.