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Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt------needs sorting pls

Posted: Sun May 01, 2011 8:25 am
by kdw
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1904
TROMANS Jacob HEWITT Florence Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/252

1911 7 Central Drive, Shirebrook, Near Mansfield

TROMANS, Jacob Head Married 6 years M 32 1879 Colliery Labourer Above Ground Stafford Rowley Regis
TROMANS, Florence Wife Married 6 years F 28 1883 Stafford Rowley Regis
TROMANS, Annie Daughter F 3 1908 Stafford Rowley Regis
TROMANS, Herbert Son M 0 (10 MONTHS) 1911 Derby Shirebrook
WOODHOUSE, John Boarder Married M 56 1855 Colliery Blacksmith Striker Worcestershire Netherton

1901 New Bury Lane Oldbury
The Throne
Elizabeth Froman Head Wid 64 Born Rowley Regis
Isac Froman Son 28 Puddler (Forge) Born Rowley Regis
Jacob Froman Son 22 Groom Domestic Born Rowley Regis
Next Door is Florrie Hewitt 18 Genral Servant Born Netherton

1891 Barn Cottage Foredraft Oldbury
William Tromans Head M 70 Watchman Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Tromans Wife 49 Born Rowley Regis
Isaac Tromans Son 18 Puddler Born Rowley Regis
Jacob Tromans Son 12 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Ann Tromans Daur 15 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

1881 87 The Village RR
Willm. TROMANS Head M Male 60 Dudley, Worcester, England Coal Miner
Elizabeth TROMANS Wife M Female 41 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England
Thomas TROMANS Son U Male 17 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Stone Breaker
Abraham TROMANS Son U Male 11 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Isaac TROMANS Son Male 10 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Sarah Ann TROMANS Daur U Female 6 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England Scholar
Jacob TROMANS Son Male 2 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

1871 Rowley Village
William Tromans Head 48 Quarryman Born Dudley
Elizabeth Tromans Wife 33 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
William Tromans Son 13 Coal Miner born Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans Son 7 Born Rowley Regis
Abraham Tromans Son 1 Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Somnell Mother Wid 77 Born Rowley Regis

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Tue May 03, 2011 10:36 pm
by grangers14
I have added here,
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =914336194

cant see for certain a marriage yet either.
Any thoughts?
Jo :)

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:00 am
by kdw
Dont quite get this

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1837
Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/001/200
TROWMANS Sarah SUMNALL James

possible
1861 Rowley Regis
William Troman Head 36 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Eliza Troman Wife 36 Nailer Born Rowley Regis
Jeremiah Troman Son 17 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Joseph Tromans Son 4 Labourer Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Daur 9 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
William Tromans Son 4 Born Rowley Regis
Thomas Tromans Son 2 Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Tromans Mother Mar 66 Born Rowley Regis

Cant see them in 1851

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Wed May 04, 2011 9:32 am
by rockyfowler
25 Dec 1837 St thomas dudley
James SUMNALL O W Miner Darby Hand Parish Of Dudley Father Thomas Sumnall Labourer
Sarah TROWMANS O W Darby Hand Father Joseph Worton Nailer
After Banns The Marks Of both
Wit; Joseph Parkes X Thomas Allen

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:44 am
by kdw
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1840
Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/003/375
WILCOX Thomas TROWMANS Phebe

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 11:57 am
by kdw
1841 Belper Row Dudley
James Samuel 50 Coal Miner Not born in County
Sarah Samuel 40 Not born in County
William Fineman 15 Coal Miner Born in Country
Maria Fineman 5 Born in County
Phoebe Wilcocks 18 Born in County

Looks like Sumnel and Trueman on image

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 8:37 pm
by grangers14
??
family search
groom's name: William Trueman
bride's name: Sarah Ryley
marriage date: 13 Nov 1825
marriage place: Kingswinford, Stafford, England

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Thu May 05, 2011 9:11 pm
by grangers14
So we are getting there!
Sarah was widow when she married James Sumnall.
If we get the childrens marriages and check father is William...

We need a possible marriage for William and Eliza(beth) possibly around 1844? If Jeremiah is both son.

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
TROMANS William HILL Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/306

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 7:42 am
by kdw
rockyfowler wrote:25 Dec 1837 St thomas dudley
James SUMNALL O W Miner Darby Hand Parish Of Dudley Father Thomas Sumnall Labourer
Sarah TROWMANS O W Darby Hand Father Joseph Worton Nailer
After Banns The Marks Of both
Wit; Joseph Parkes X Thomas Allen


According to this her maiden name would be Worton

Cant find a marriage for Worton to Tromans

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:08 am
by cid
possible????

Sarah Wourton
marriage 21 Mar 1814 -Dudley, Worcester, England
spouse: Benjamin Truman
record title:
England Marriages, 1538-1973
groom's name: Benjamin Truman
bride's name: Sarah Wourton
marriage date: 21 Mar 1814
marriage place: Dudley, Worcester, England
groom's marital status: Single
bride's marital status: Single
indexing project (batch) number: M01166 - 6

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 8:49 am
by grangers14
I missed Sarahs father being Joseph Worton :roll:

But then that daughter Marias father is William?

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:01 am
by grangers14
I thought that too Kdw...age a little out but father and his occuaption right.

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:07 am
by kdw
1861 Stone Street Oldbury
Ann Downing Head Widow 73 Nailer Born Halesowen
Edward Downing Son Widr 32 Coal Miner Born West Bromwich
Eliza Downing Grand Daur 8 Scholar Born Oldbury
Hannah Downing Daur Grand Daur 6 Scholatr Born Oldbury

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:16 am
by kdw
This is getting me really confussed

1851 census has Edward Downing with Rebbeca and they have Hannah 3 mths but his marriage is to Maria.
Are Rebecca and Maria the same person

The Hannah with father Edward on BCC was born abt 1854

Re: Jacob Tromans Florence Hewitt

Posted: Fri May 06, 2011 9:24 am
by grangers14
:lol: me too!

Hannah Downing in 1851 census is 3 months.

Wasnt sure of that marriage because of the name?
and
possible deaths

Rebecca Downing
Year of Registration: 1853
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: Kings Norton (To 1912)
County: Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6c
Page: 271

Maria Downing
Year of Registration: 1858
Quarter of Registration: Jan-Feb-Mar
District: West Bromwich
County: Shropshire, Staffordshire, Warwickshire, Worcestershire
Volume: 6b
Page: 425