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ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marriage
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:34 am
by Northern Lass
Farside if you around this links to you
where is the marriage pls for Mary Ann Allport and James Probert
I can only see this one
1864
PROBERT James FLECK Mary A Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/022/276
and this Mary A is a Fleck
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =981505410 
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 8:51 am
by kdw
Possible first marriage for Mary
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1858
Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/017/299
ALLPORT * Mary A FLICK John
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:15 am
by kdw
Deaths Sep 1859
FLACK John Dudley 6c 76
This could be Johns mother
1861 Birmingham Street Dudley
David McIntosh Head 48 Joiner Born Scotland
Elizabeth McIntosh Wife 34 Born Germany
Robert McIntosh Son 20 Umbrella Maker Born Halifax Yorkshire
Mary Ann Fleck Grand Daur 37 Born Brockmoor Staffordshire Image says 7
Sarah Rowland 56
Sarah Warren 26
James Warren 2
Ann Dunkcoaler 21
George Gordon 77
Sarah Drenkwaler 2
Joseph Hydon 57
Isaac Fry 43
Ann Fry 39
Mary Ann Fry 15
Samuel Wickware 28
Mary Wickware 26
Thomas Dodd 53
Sarah Dodd 46
Peter Connor 40
Ellen Connor 41
Thomas Campbell 41
Caroline Campbell 38
Arthur Campbell 15
Mary Ann Campbell 8
Thomas Campbell 5
Caroline Campbell 1
All others are Lodgers
1871 23 Birmingham Street Dudley Licensed Lodging House
Elizabeth Mc Intosh Head W 64 Born Germany
James Probert Son in Law 40 Tailor Born Worcester City
Maryam Probert Wife 31 Born Dudley
James Probert Son 6 Born Dudley
Sarah A Probert Daur 2 Born Dudley
Samuel Probert Son 4 Months Born Dudley
Mary A Fleck Daur 11 Born Dudley
Andrew Valente 28
Lorets Valente 19
Antonio Valente 16
Enock Round 20
Catherine Cox 24
Elizabeth Godfrey 20
Mary Vernon 40
Samuel Vernon 8
William Moss 19
Benjamin Banks 50
John Hull 50
Elizabeth Hanley 60
William Hunter 40
Miles Hunter 20
Catherine Hunter 18
Susannah Hunter 12
Peter Harrison 40
Radna Townsend 70
Gentteman John 50
Susannah Hunter 35
All others Lodgers
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1859
Tipton, St Martin(Pepper Box) Sandwell Register Office 39/9/33
FLECK Elizabeth MCINTOSH David
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:30 am
by Northern Lass
nice one Kdw will sort out and sticky
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 9:48 am
by kdw
Cant find James in 1861
1861 Calefornia Kingswinford
Samuel Sport Head Mar 47 Coal Miner
Esther Allport Wife 42
Mary Ann Fluk Daur Wid 21 Lab at Brick Hill
Christena Allport Daur 14 Lab at Brick Hill
Esther Allport Daur 10 Scholar
James Allport Son 7 Scholar
Caroline Allport Daur 4 Scholar
Sarah J Allport Daur 1
All Born Kingswinford
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:31 am
by Northern Lass
Thanks to RF for marriage info
9 May 1864 St Thomas Dudley
James Probert full bach miner Dudley James Probert bricklayer
Mary Ann Fleck full widow Dudley Samuel Allport miner
banns
James signed / X Mary Ann
Wit - X Samuel Allport / X Elizabeth Mackintosh
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 10:49 am
by kdw
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 12:01 pm
by Northern Lass
Where do we find out about that mining accident so I can quote the link?
got 1st marriage for Mary ann now so will add that too
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:15 pm
by Northern Lass
JOHN FLECK Birth: 09 SEP 1840
Christening: 20 SEP 1840 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Parents:
Father: ADAM FLECK
Mother: BETSY Extracted
Re: Query on Allport and Probert marriage------NL sorting
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 5:44 pm
by Northern Lass
added most of that
flagging to archive
Re: ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marr
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:22 pm
by kdw
Re: ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marr
Posted: Tue Apr 26, 2011 6:49 pm
by kdw
1841 Birmingham Street Dudley
Adam Fleck 45 Musician F(Foreign)
Elizabeth Fleck 35 F
Mary Fleck 5 Born in County
John Fleck 9 MO Born in County
1851 Birmingham Street Dudley
Abraham Fleck Head Mar 56 Cant read Occ Looks like Labour sic Born Frankfort Germany
Elizabeth Fleck Wife 44 Born Frankfort Germany
John Fleck Son 10 Born Dudley
James Warren 25
Sarah Warren 18
John Francis 23
Ellen Francis 29
Henry Bartlett 41
Emma Bartlett 35
John Jackson 50
Henry Williams 47
Francis Brown 30
Samuel Brown 25
James England 45
Caroline England 43
Frederick Banyard 41
Sophia Banyard 31
Charles Banyard 4
John Banyard 2
Mary Banyard 7 Days
Sarah Bollins 44
Ann Bollins 11
John Collins 44
Margaret Collins 42
Ellen Collins 14
Catharine Collins 11
Margaret Collins 8
Mary Ann Collins 4
John Holt 22
Ann Holt 26
Edward Lane 40
Ann Lane 40
Robert Lane 12
Margaret A Lane 8
Edward Lane 2
William Lane 6 Weeks
James Holt 9
Mary Willis 34
Thomas Willis 14
George Mells 12
Eliz Mells 3
Margaret Stewart 55
Margaret Duffy 19
Maria Duffy 3
Harry Davis 47
Sarah Davis 49
William Baker 50
Archibald Street 19
All Others Lodgers
Deaths Jun 1857
Flack Adam Dudley 6c 72
Re: ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marr
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:53 am
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:http://www.cmhrc.co.uk/site/database/result/6310.html
great!
so do we think that is our James?
can I put date of death in for him as that
then I will hyperlink detail
Re: ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marr
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 9:53 am
by kdw
Not at all Sure about James Death
Could be this one
Deaths Jun 1890
Probert James 61 Dudley 6c 60
Re: ARC TBC................Query on Allport and Probert marr
Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:10 am
by Northern Lass
kdw wrote:Not at all Sure about James Death
Could be this one
Deaths Jun 1890
Probert James 61 Dudley 6c 60
I agree will add that too