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John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:25 pm
by mallosa
another spare look up from RF... here

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:31 pm
by mallosa
1871: Fraser Street, Oldbury
John James 39 Head Forgeman
Mary James 29 Wife
Julia James 14 Dau
Thomas James 5 Son
(all born Oldbury)

1881: 1 Fraser St, Oldbury
John James 46 Head Grocer
Mary James 39 Wife
Julia James 23 Dau U
John James 20 Son U Glass Cutter
Thomas James 15 Son
George James 7 Son
(all born Oldbury)

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 7:34 pm
by mallosa
1891: 34 Rood End Road, Oldbury
John James 58 Head Wid Retired Foreman
Thomas James 24 Son S Student in Weslyan Theological Institute?
George James 18 Son S Grocers Assistant

has he remarried again?

1901: 159 Rood End Road, Oldbury
John James 68 Retired Iron Worker
Mary James 58
(both born Oldbury)

are John and Mary around in 1911 - see how long they have been married?

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:32 pm
by cid
can't see them together, but there is this. Don't know if it's any good

1911 40 Bloxcidge St Langley Birmingham

MORRIS, Elizabeth Head Single F 54 1857 Oldbury Worcestershire
JAMES, Mary Sister Widow F 69 1842 Oldbury Worcestershire
SPRATLING, Kathleen Jane Niece Single F 26 1885 Langley Worcestershire
SPRATLING, Gertrude Visitor Single F 20 1891 Milliner Langley Worcestershire

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:52 pm
by mallosa
Mmm...could be but not sure :?

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:11 pm
by cid
mallosa wrote:Mmm...could be but not sure :?


Me neither,

Have gone back and looked at the 1901. Had a check of all the Mary James in oldbury born about the same time, No one else claims to have been born in Oldbury,

Looks like a marriage look up is required :?: :?:

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:16 pm
by cid
Deaths Mar 1890

James Mary 48 W. Bromwich 6b 561

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:20 pm
by cid
Marriages Sep 1893

James John W. Bromwich 6b 1156
Jones Mary W. Bromwich 6b 1156

JAMES John JONES Mary West Bromwich Register Office Sandwell Register Office WBRO/24/58

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:24 pm
by mallosa
Nice one cid :wink:

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:38 pm
by cid
Here's the Mary I found in 1911, in 1891 Bloxcidge Street, Oldbury

MORRISS, Hannah Head Single F 37 1854 Clerk Brickworks Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRISS, Elizabeth Sister Single F 35 1856 Living On Own Means Oldbury Worcestershire
JONES, Mary Stepsister Single F 49 1842 Living On Own Means Oldbury Worcestershire
SPRATLING, Wilfred G Nephew M 12 1879 Scholar Langley Worcestershire
SPRATLING, Kathleen J Niece F 6 1885 Scholar Langley Worcestershire

So this Mary Jones POSSIBLY marries someone whose surname is James and is living with him in 1901, and then back here in 1911 as a widow :?: :?:

I have checked, and Mary is not with Elizabeth in 1901.

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:39 pm
by cid
mallosa wrote:Nice one cid :wink:



I aim to please Maam :lol: :lol:

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:43 pm
by cid
1881 Bloxidge St Oldbury

MORRISS, William Head Married M 65 1816 Brickmaker Employs 32 Halesowen Worcestershire
MORRISS, Phoebe Wife Married F 62 1819 Oldbury Worcestershire
JONES, Mary Step Daughter Single F 39 1842 Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRISS, Hannah Daughter Single F 27 1854 Clerk Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRISS, Elizabeth Daughter Single F 25 1856 Oldbury Worcestershire

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:46 pm
by cid
1871 Portway Road Oldbury

MORRIS, William Head M 54 1817 Worcestershire Birckmaker employing what looks like 84 boys
MORRIS, Pheobe Wife F 52 1819 Worcestershire
MORRIS, Mary Jones Daughter F 29 1842 Worcestershire
MORRIS, William Son M 23 1848 Worcestershire
MORRIS, Sarah Pheobe Daughter F 20 1851 Worcestershire
MORRIS, Hannah Daughter F 17 1854 Worcestershire
MORRIS, Elizabeth Daughter F 15 1856 Worcestershire

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:48 pm
by mallosa
er...can you explain I'm a bit lost now :?

Re: John James

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 9:49 pm
by cid
1861 Portway Road Oldbury

MORRIS, William Head Married M 45 1816 Brickmaster Employing 6 Men 3 Women 3 Boys Romsley Hill Worcestershire
MORRIS, Pheobe Wife Married F 42 1819 Oldbury Worcestershire
JONES, Mary Daughter Unmarried F 19 1842 Dressmaker Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, William Son M 13 1848 Labourer Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, Sarah Daughter Unmarried F 10 1851 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, Hannah Daughter Unmarried F 7 1854 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire
MORRIS, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 5 1856 Scholar Oldbury Worcestershire