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Thanks for the marriage look up RF! here

I have connected up David to his parents

Not sure what Catharine's fathers occupation is on that marriage

This looks like him, but no Catharine

1861: Grahams Bank, New Road, Halesowen, Worc
George Graham 60 Head M Pensioner fron 4th ? Gds Ireland
Mary Graham 50 Wife Ireland
Lucy Ellen Graham 12 Dau Halesowen (witness at her sister Catharines marriage)
Arthur William Graham 9 Son Kingsheath, Worc

1851: Kingsheath, Kings Norton, Worc
George Graham 51 Head M Super' of Police Ireland, Queens C
Mary Graham 40 Wife Ireland Kings C
Mary Ann Graham 19 Dau Harmston, Scotland
Lucy Ellen Graham 3 Dau Halesowen, Worc
Emily Jane Graham 1 Dau Kings Norton (Kings Heath on image)
Charles Rodman (Redman on image) Officer U Police Constable Berkshire (not transcribed)

1841: Church Street, Halesowen, Shropshire
George Graham 36 Supertend Police
Morrey Graham 30
Ann Graham 10
Elizabeth Graham 7
Catherine Graham 5
(none born in county)

1851: St Pauls School House, Princess Street, Huddesfield, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Graham 18 Head S National Schoolmistress Armagh, Ireland
Catharine Graham 14 Sister Scholar Trowbridge, Wiltshire

1861: Monyhull Hall, Kings Norton
Elizabeth Graham age 27 U born Ireland is a Housemaid in the household of Thomas Lane 41 a Magistrate for the county of Worc and Borough of Birmingham

Can't see Catharine in 1861

mallosa wrote:1861: Monyhull Hall, Kings Norton
Elizabeth Graham age 27 U born Ireland is a Housemaid in the household of Thomas Lane 41 a Magistrate for the county of Worc and Borough of Birmingham

Curious about this one -- did she really go from daughter of Police Superintendent and school mistress to Housemaid -- must have fallen on hard times or been disowned?

Maths girl wrote:

mallosa wrote:1861: Monyhull Hall, Kings Norton
Elizabeth Graham age 27 U born Ireland is a Housemaid in the household of Thomas Lane 41 a Magistrate for the county of Worc and Borough of Birmingham

Curious about this one -- did she really go from daughter of Police Superintendent and school mistress to Housemaid -- must have fallen on hard times or been disowned?

Exactly what I thought MG but if not, where is she?

mallosa wrote:

Maths girl wrote:

mallosa wrote:1861: Monyhull Hall, Kings Norton
Elizabeth Graham age 27 U born Ireland is a Housemaid in the household of Thomas Lane 41 a Magistrate for the county of Worc and Borough of Birmingham

Curious about this one -- did she really go from daughter of Police Superintendent and school mistress to Housemaid -- must have fallen on hard times or been disowned?

Exactly what I thought MG but if not, where is she?

Old enough to be married? Dead? or just an independent woman fallen on hard times!

Possible 1881

1881 9, Eaton Terrace, St Marylebone
RAYMENT, Anne Head Married F 49 1832 Lodging House Keeper Hullbridge Essex
RAYMENT, James Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar London Hackney, London Middlesex
WAVER, Sarah Servant Single F 16 1865 Gen Serv Marylebone Middlesex
BUZZARD, Hannah Lodger Single F 63 1818 Annuitant Marylebone Middlesex
GRAHAM, Elizabeth Lodger Single F 46 1835 Teacher Of English Literature Ireland

mallosa wrote:
1861: Grahams Bank, New Road, Halesowen, Worc
George Graham 60 Head M Pensioner fron 4th ? Gds Ireland
Mary Graham 50 Wife Ireland
Lucy Ellen Graham 12 Dau Halesowen (witness at her sister Catharines marriage)
Arthur William Graham 9 Son Kingsheath, Worc

1871: Rumbow, Halesowen
George Graham 70 Head Proprietor of houses - Pensioner Army and Police Ireland
Mary Graham 60 Wife Ireland
Lucy W Graham 23 Dau U Schoolmistress Private Halesowen
A William Graham 19 Son U Engine fitter Kingsheath
Anny (Amy on image) Willetts 6 Visitor Old Hill, Staffs


Transcribed as living with a Hackett family but in fact are a separate family...

1881: Rumbow, Halesowen, Worc
Mary Graham 70 Head Wid Proprietor of houses Ireland
Lucy H. Graham 30 Dau U Governess ? Halesowen
Arthur W. Graham son U Engine fitter at works Kingsheath

Maths girl wrote:Possible 1881

1881 9, Eaton Terrace, St Marylebone
RAYMENT, Anne Head Married F 49 1832 Lodging House Keeper Hullbridge Essex
RAYMENT, James Son Single M 7 1874 Scholar London Hackney, London Middlesex
WAVER, Sarah Servant Single F 16 1865 Gen Serv Marylebone Middlesex
BUZZARD, Hannah Lodger Single F 63 1818 Annuitant Marylebone Middlesex
GRAHAM, Elizabeth Lodger Single F 46 1835 Teacher Of English Literature Ireland

That looks more like her MG

Catherine...

(Extracted)
CATHERINE <GRAHAM>
Christening: 12 OCT 1836 Saint James, Trowbridge, Wiltshire, England
Father: GEORGE GRAHAM
Mother: MARY

mallosa wrote:1851: St Pauls School House, Princess Street, Huddesfield, Yorkshire
Elizabeth Graham 18 Head S National Schoolmistress Armagh, Ireland
Catharine Graham 14 Sister Scholar Trowbridge, Wiltshire

1861: Monyhull Hall, Kings Norton
Elizabeth Graham age 27 U born Ireland is a Housemaid in the household of Thomas Lane 41 a Magistrate for the county of Worc and Borough of Birmingham

Can't see Catharine in 1861

Still looking for Catherine in 1861 pre-marriage

There is this one who happens to be a school mistress,
Name: Catharine Gray.
Age: 23.
Estimated Birth Year: abt 1838.
Relation: School Mistress.
Gender: Female.
Where born: Salisbury, Wiltshire, England.
Civil parish: Baverstock.
County/Island: Wiltshire.
Country: England

Mmmm, I leave it there, thanks Jimmy

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