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1851 Derby End, Dudley
GARBETT, Richard Head Married M 47 1804 Coal Minor Dudley
GARBETT, Mary A Wife Married F 44 1807 Dudley
SIDAWAY, Jacob Lodger Married M 24 1827 Shoe Maker Dudley
SIDAWAY, Tracer Wife Married F 24 1827 Dudley
SIDAWAY, Joseph Son M 1 1850 Dudley

1861 Halesowen Road, Dudley
GARBITT, Richard Head Married M 58 1803 Labourer Broseley Shropshire
GARBITT, Mary Wife Married F 57 1804 Netherton Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Jacob Lodger Married M 32 1829 Cordwainer Rowley Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Fanny Lodger Wife Married F 34 1827 Gnosall Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Joseph Son Unmarried M 11 1850 Scholar Netherton Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Matthew Son Unmarried M 9 1852 Scholar Netherton Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Elizabeth Daughter Unmarried F 4 1857 Scholar Rowley Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Abel J Son Unmarried M 2 1859 Rowley Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Richard Son Unmarried M 0 (3M) 1861 Netherton Worcestershire

1871 Halesowen Road, Dudley
GARBETT, Mary Head F 67 Netherton Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Theris Daughter F 45 Sedgley Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Jacob Son-In-Law M 42 Cordwainer Windmill End
SIDAWAY, Joseph Grandson M 21 Clerk Darby End Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Matthew Grandson M 19 Cordwainer Darby End Worcestershire
SIDAWAY, Elizabeth Granddaughter F 14 Dom. Serv Rowley Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Joal J Grandson M 12 Sch. Staffordshire
SIDAWAY, Dick Grandson M 8 Netherton Worcestershire

1881 116 Halesowen Rd. Dudley
Jacob SIDAWAY hd. 52 Boot & Shoe Maker b. Rowley
Theresa SIDAWAY wife 55 Wife b. Rowley
Joal J. SIDAWAY son 22 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Jethro SIDAWAY son 18 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Mary A. M. GARBETT moth. in law widow 77 Imbecile b. Dudley.

1849
SIDAWAY Jacob HOBSON Tracey Dudley, St Edmund Dudley Register Office 201/001/289

18 Nov 1849 St Edmund Dudley
Jacob SIDAWAY O B Cordwainer Dudley Father Jacob Sidaway Cordwainer
Tracey HOBSON O S Dudley Father Joseph Hobson Miner
After Banns Jacob Signed - The Mark Of Tracey
Wit; George Adams X Anne Parkes X

rockyfowler wrote:18 Nov 1849 St Edmund Dudley
Jacob SIDAWAY O B Cordwainer Dudley Father Jacob Sidaway Cordwainer
Tracey HOBSON O S Dudley Father Joseph Hobson Miner
After Banns Jacob Signed - The Mark Of Tracey
Wit; George Adams X Anne Parkes X

Was Tracy married before or was her mother Mary married twice , Joseph Hobson was the father but on census Richard Garbett is married to Mary. Any idea's welcome please.
Annie

I think this is the marriage

if you look at census she is down aged 77 as Mary A M Garbett

RICHARD GARBETT
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN MARIA ALLEN
Marriage: 02 OCT 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted

1881 116 Halesowen Rd. Dudley
Jacob SIDAWAY hd. 52 Boot & Shoe Maker b. Rowley
Theresa SIDAWAY wife 55 Wife b. Rowley
Joal J. SIDAWAY son 22 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Jethro SIDAWAY son 18 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Mary A. M. GARBETT moth. in law widow 77 Imbecile b. Dudley.

so did she marry Joseph Hobson? or not

Ok so on census she is mother in law so we know tracey is dau

but then why is she Tracey Hobson if that marriage is in 1825 and Tracey is born 1827

this does look like Richard and Mary/Maria
but with a phebe with them

1841
Primrose Hill, Dudley
GARBET, Richard 43 Stone Miner Worcestershire
GARBET, Maria 35 Worcestershire
GARBET, Phebe 15 Worcestershire


very odd think we add this on Richards notes as a possible
leaving phebe off

Poss, extracted.
MARY MARIA ALLEN.
Christening, 11 MAY 1806. Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester.
Parents:
JAMES ALLEN.
NANCY.

Northern Lass wrote:I think this is the marriage

if you look at census she is down aged 77 as Mary A M Garbett

RICHARD GARBETT
Marriages:
Spouse: MARY ANN MARIA ALLEN
Marriage: 02 OCT 1825 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester,
Extracted

1881 116 Halesowen Rd. Dudley
Jacob SIDAWAY hd. 52 Boot & Shoe Maker b. Rowley
Theresa SIDAWAY wife 55 Wife b. Rowley
Joal J. SIDAWAY son 22 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Jethro SIDAWAY son 18 Boot & Shoe Finisher b. Rowley
Mary A. M. GARBETT moth. in law widow 77 Imbecile b. Dudley.

so did she marry Joseph Hobson? or not

What do we think on this one ..........Jimmy what do you think?

is Tracey dau of Mary?
is Mary married to Richard Mary allen?
is that the marriage in 1825

in which case how can Tracey be the dau and be a Hobson

anyone any ideas
just for mo I am connecting

Is she a Teresa?

1881 she is and on 1891 she is

The marriage looks good.

On the 1891 Theresa Probert is a boarder aged 58 b Netherton wid

on 1871 looks like Theresa is married to James Probert
she puts born Darby Hand

1865
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
PROBERT James MACKSFIELD Thirza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/023/353


coincidence she is a Theresa too

Jimmy wrote:The marriage looks good.

do you think Tracy /Theresa is the dau?

Northern Lass wrote:Ok so on census she is mother in law so we know tracey is dau

but then why is she Tracey Hobson if that marriage is in 1825 and Tracey is born 1827

Could be adopted daughter.

Jimmy wrote:

Northern Lass wrote:Ok so on census she is mother in law so we know tracey is dau

but then why is she Tracey Hobson if that marriage is in 1825 and Tracey is born 1827

Could be adopted daughter.

I think she is but of whom?

if Joseph Hobson is father

then where is he in 1841

and how does that Theresa Macksfield link?

Annie that Joel may be Igal
need a birth cant see one.....

1. Igal J Sidaway - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1859 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England

2. Jethro Sidaway - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Birth: 1863 Rowley Regis, Stafford, England