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Birth Certificate!...Edward Bateman, Rowley Regis ARC TBC?

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 6:54 am
by Antie Em
I have the marriage for Edward and Ann Eliza Beet :

28 Dec 1863 - St James Dudley
Edward Bateman, 19, B, Miner, of Rowley, Father William Worton, Miner
Ann Beet, 19, S, of Rowley, Father Joseph Beet, Labourer
Wit : J Hickman X and M Bench

Have added the family here : http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =559608310

Can't find Edward anywhere before 1871 - I have tried all alternatives, including variations of Worton (his father's name on marriage)

Any ideas anyone :?:

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:45 am
by rockyfowler
Hi Emm the church was St James Dudley the wit were J Hickman X and M Bench X :wink:

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:19 am
by Antie Em
rockyfowler wrote:Hi Emm the church was St James Dudley the wit were J Hickman X and M Bench X :wink:


Thanks Rocky - have edited the post :-)

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:02 pm
by Rob
I'm connected to the Batemans of Cakemore and Hurst Green.
Through my father Horace b.1925 d.2005
His father Frank Williams b1896.
His father Edwin Lloyd Williams b1852.
His father John Williams b1828.
His father George Lloyd Williams b1797 had a daughter Mary Ann Williams b1830, she married George Riley b1827.
His sister Eliza Riley b1820 had a son out of wedlock.Thomas Riley b1842.
He had a son Eli Riley b1881, he had a daughter Bertha Hilda Riley b1911-d1979, and she married
Wilfred Frank Bateman b1910-d1986.
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... man-Family
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ley-Family

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 5:14 pm
by Antie Em
Thanks Rob - I'll connect up at Wilfred Frank Bateman - Any ideas about Edward and his father William Worton :?:

Maggie

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 8:44 pm
by Rob
I love it when we connect people!! It's nice innit!!
No idea about Edward though Mrs Em.Not yet anyway.

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 12:42 pm
by mallosa
any use Rob?

Joseph Bateman

Marriage 1905
BATEMAN Joseph H ROSE Violet Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/261

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 1:09 pm
by Antie Em
mallosa wrote:any use Rob?

Joseph Bateman

Marriage 1905
BATEMAN Joseph H ROSE Violet Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/10/261


Thanks Mally- I have added that one for a look up - just need to add

Maggie

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Fri Apr 22, 2011 2:06 pm
by mallosa
added it to BCC Maggie :wink:

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Sat Apr 30, 2011 10:42 am
by Northern Lass
do you need anymore on this?

flagging to archive

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:09 pm
by grangers14
Ive brought this back because someone has given info that Edward Bateman had a daughter in 1864 that isnt on BCC, they have been stumped in the family too.

I cant add the info as we havent seen the birth certificate yet... Harriet doesnt apper on the census with them either.
I had a look and may be found something of use?

1871. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
John Lowe, head, 45, Carter
Elizabeth, wife, 45, Nail maker
Harriet Bateman, Boarder, 7, ( Is this Edwards daughter?)
Job Worton, Boarder, 65, Road Man
All born Rowley Regis

(freebmd Deaths Mar 1878
Whorton Job 70 Dudley 6c 14 )



Then looking at Job...

1841. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
Job Worton, 40, nail m
Mary, 45,
William, 20, Coal m (Could this be William, Edwards father?)
Edward, 12, coal m,
Isaac, 10,
Ann, 8
All born in county


Transcribed as Merton looks like Whorton
1851. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
Jobe Whorton, head, 52, Nailer
Mary, wife, 61, Nailer
Isac, son, 22, Coal Miner
Edward, lodger, Mar, 24, Nailer
Edward, nephew, 5 (Is this Edward Bateman?)
All born Rowley Regis

Transcribed and looks like Norton
1861. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
Job Norton, head, 62, Stone Breaker,
Mary, wife, 71,
/Isaac Norton, Lodger, 30, Nail maker
Jane, wife, 38, Nail maker
Edward, son, 7,
Henry?, son, 5,
Mary, daur, 1,
All born Rowley Regis

This looks like its Job here on BCC
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ton-Family

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1855
WORTON Isaac CUTTLER Jane Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/015/162

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 2:23 pm
by grangers14
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1846
LOW John WORTON Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/007/170


1851. Blacfkheath, Rowley regis
John Low, head, 24, Nailer
Elizabeth, wife, 25, Nailer
Born Rowley Regis

1861. Blackheath, Rowley Regis
John Lowe, head, 34, Carter,
Elizabeth, wife, 34, nail maker
Edward Moreton, Boarder, 15, Coal miner (Is this Edward and should be Worton?)
Henry Homer, Boarder, 11, Nail maker
All born Rowley Regis

1881. 58, Oldbury Road, Blackheath, Rowley Regis
John Lowe, head, 55, Nail maker
Elizabeth, wife, 55, nail maker
Born Rowley Regis

1891. 20 Hackett Street, Rowley Regis
John Lowe, head, 68, Imbecile
Elizabeth, wife, 66,
Benjamin Worton, cousin, 57, labourer in Stone Quarry

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis

Posted: Mon Jan 23, 2012 3:43 pm
by grangers14
Still cant see how Bateman came in though :?
??
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1845
WORTON William WAKELAM Ann M Wordsley, Holy Trinity Dudley Register Office 018/002/266
WURTON William COX Eliza Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/006/219

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis--Jo sorting

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 3:05 pm
by grangers14
This is Harriets birth record

5th Februaury 1864. Blackheath Rowley Regis
Harriet, Girl, Father, Edward Bateman, Mother, Ann Eliza Bateman, formerly Beet, Coal Miner
Registered 27th February 1864


and also her marriage info

11th November 1886. Parish Church Netherton
Richard Powell, 26, B, Carpenter, cant read residence , William Powell, Chandler Maker
Harriet Bateman, 22, S, cant read residence , Edward Bateman, Collier
Banns
Both signed
Witnesses:- H Powell. W Powell

Re: Edward Bateman - Rowley Regis--Jo sorting

Posted: Tue Jan 24, 2012 7:58 pm
by grangers14
Marriage Looked up by Rocky Fowler, Thank you! :grin:

21st June 1846. St Thomas, Dudley
John Low, Off Full Age, B, Miner, Dudley, David Low, Nailer
Elizabeth Worton, Off Full Age, S, Dudley, Job Worton, Nailer
Banns
Mark of Both
Witnesses:- X of Samuel White. X of Hannah Low

So Elizabeths father is Job.

SO where do we get Bateman :?