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1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:06 pm
by expat66
Can anyone see this chap on any census after the 1841 one?
William WHARTON... I found him on the 1841 census in Kings Norton, Worcs.
William WHARTON ( age 30) shoe maker
Elizabeth (30)
Louisa(4)
Emma(2)
John(6mths)
Mary BRIXTON(60)
same census... 4 doors away is Joseph WHARTON (aged 60)shoemaker... maybe William's father??
I can't find William WHARTON on any census after 1841... but he is on his daughter Louisa's marriage certificate in 1861.... listed as cordwainer ( I looked this up... it means shoemaker!)
There is another William WHARTON I keep finding but he is a licensed victualler born in 1809 ( don't think he is the same person?)
Thanks in advance!
Expat
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:30 pm
by Jimmy
expat66 wrote:William WHARTON ( age 30) shoe maker.
Elizabeth (30).
Louisa(4).
Emma(2).
John(6mths).
Mary BRIXTON(60). Expat
Going by Louisa and Emma's age I would say this is the same family,
This looks like Wharton on image.
1861. Resevoir Inn, Ladywood, Birmingham.
William Wharlow 52. Victuallar. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Ann Wharlow 56. Smethwick, Staffordshire.
Louisa Wharlow 24. Dressmaker. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Emma Wharlow 22. Milliner. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Thomas Brigton 19. Servant. Bromsgrove, Worcestershire.
Sarah Canker 23. Servant. Tettenhall, Staffordshire.
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:30 pm
by FarSide
Don't see William or Elizabeth as yet.. poss died
May already have this..
Here are the daughters, poss John is Williams bro
1851
Kings heath, Kings Norton
John Wharton 47 - Cordwainer 8 men
Jane Wharton 51
Joseph Wharton 20
John Wharton 16
Jane Wharton 14
Frederick Wharton 13
Lousia Wharton 14 - Visitor
Emma Wharton 12 - Visitor
all b Kings heath
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:39 pm
by FarSide
Extracted
WILLIAM WHARTON
Marriages:
Spouse: ELIZABETH BUXTON
Marriage: 01 DEC 1834 Kings Norton, Worcester
Mary Brixton - mother in law?
William WHARTON ( age 30) shoe maker
Elizabeth (30)
Louisa(4)
Emma(2)
John(6mths)
Mary BRIXTON(60)
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:44 pm
by FarSide
Poss
Deaths Dec 1841
WHARTON Elizabeth KingsNorton 18 3_3
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:49 pm
by Jimmy
Deaths Dec 1841.
WHARTON John. KingsNorton. 18. _13.
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 9:59 pm
by FarSide
FarSide wrote:Don't see William or Elizabeth as yet.. poss died
May already have this..
Here are the daughters, poss John is Williams bro
1851
Kings heath, Kings Norton
John Wharton 47 - Cordwainer 8 men
Jane Wharton 51
Joseph Wharton 20
John Wharton 16
Jane Wharton 14
Frederick Wharton 13
Lousia Wharton 14 - Visitor
Emma Wharton 12 - Visitor
all b Kings heath
1841
Kings heath, Kings Norton
John Wharton 38 - Shoe m
Jane Wharton 40
Henry Wharton 14
Joseph Wharton 11
John Wharton 6
Jane Wharton 5
Frederick Wharton 3
Elizabeth Jelgs 28 - FS
John Lyear 20 - Shoe m
all b in c
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:04 pm
by FarSide
Submitted
Parents - Joseph & Mary
JOHN WHARTON
Male Christening: 29 MAY 1803 Kings Norton, Worcester
MARY WHARTON
Female Christening: 13 OCT 1805 Kings Norton, Worcester
HANNAH WHARTON
Female Christening: 11 OCT 1807 Wythall Chapel, Kings Norton, Worcester
WILLIAM WHARTON
Male Christening: 15 JAN 1809 Wythall Chapel, Kings Norton, Worcester
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Wed Apr 20, 2011 10:13 pm
by FarSide
Jimmy wrote:expat66 wrote:William WHARTON ( age 30) shoe maker.
Elizabeth (30).
Louisa(4).
Emma(2).
John(6mths).
Mary BRIXTON(60). Expat
Going by Louisa and Emma's age I would say this is the same family,
This looks like Wharton on image.
1861. Resevoir Inn, Ladywood, Birmingham.
William Wharlow 52. Victuallar. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Ann Wharlow 56. Smethwick, Staffordshire.
Louisa Wharlow 24. Dressmaker. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Emma Wharlow 22. Milliner. Kings Norton, Worcestershire.
Thomas Brigton 19. Servant. Bromsgrove, Worcestershire.
Sarah Canker 23. Servant. Tettenhall, Staffordshire.
Wonder if William married into the booze business..
Extracted
WILLIAM WHARTON
Marriages:
Spouse: ANN GREEN
Marriage: 13 SEP 1843 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick
1851
Great Charles Street, Birmingham
William Wharton 48 - Licensed Victualler - b Kings norton
Ann Wharton 46 - b Smethwick
William Coates 19
Mary Nurton 24
John Fishie 29
William Cass 31
Thomas Baker 27
Dchroue Baker 24
William McEwan 51
Henry Ryall 55
Edward Clayton 26
poss a boarding house the others are from all over..
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 12:42 am
by expat66
Oh you clever people!!
Talk about something staring me in the face!
On the 1861 census , William WHARTON is at the Reservoir Inn, Edgbaston ( thanks Jimmy for spotting that!)
...next house is the lodge to the Reservoir....the lodgekeeper is George ECCLESHALL.... who was the father of Thomas ECCLESHALL who married Louisa WHARTON in 1861.
Looks like my great great grandfather (Thomas) married the pub landlord's daughter! and William must have put his shoemaking aside to pull pints
How many times must I have looked at that 1861 census and not seen that name WHARTON at the neighbouring address
Many Thanks
Expat
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 7:37 am
by Northern Lass
Is this now Completed?
Re: 1851 and (any census after this) William WHARTON
Posted: Thu Apr 21, 2011 4:19 pm
by expat66
Yes NL ...completed