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John Williams - help please---------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Tue Apr 19, 2011 9:13 pm
by mallosa
Thanks for this look up RF :wink:

Marriage 9th April 1860 Dudley Parish Church
John Williams Full Bach Miner Dudley Thomas Williams Miner
Mary Turner Minor Spin Dudley Joseph Turner Miner
after Banns
John (signed) Mary (made her mark)
Wit: Ann Maria Stevens / John Dexter (both made their mark)

and this one....

Marriage 10th Aug 1879 Parish Church of Dudley
John Bills 46 Widower Miner Dudley William Bills (dead) Miner
Mary Williams 48 Widow Dudley Joseph Taylor Miner
after Banns
Both made their mark
Wit: Samuel Fulford/ Hannah Fulford (both made their mark)

Looks like I got it wrong then? - here's the link

any thoughts?

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 8:38 pm
by mallosa
The plot thickens....

1901: 68 Waggon Street, Rowley Regis
Honor Turner 84 Head Wid Sweet Shop Keeper/Baker Old Hill, Staffs
Mary Bills 60 Dau Wid Old Hill, Staffs

1841: Cawney? Hill, Dudley, Worc
Joseph Turner 25 Coal Miner
Honor Turner 24
Samuel Turner 4
Ann Turner 2
Mary Turner 4 MO
Ann Smith 14
John Smith 9
Edward Smith 7
Jeremiah Woodall 70
(all born in county)

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:28 pm
by peterd
Taylor could be wrong ?

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Sun Apr 24, 2011 11:34 pm
by peterd
witnesses ?

SAMUEL FULFORD
HANNAH SMITH
Marriage: 05 OCT 1832 Aston Juxta Birmingham, Warwick

any relation to the smiths in the 1841 census with mary ?

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Mon Apr 25, 2011 11:51 am
by mallosa
peterd wrote:Taylor could be wrong ?


It has to be doesn't it Pete but, it does say Taylor on the Certificate!

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 2:41 pm
by grangers14
Sorry for jumping in but I think it seems to have been added wrong to the second marriage and should be Turner.


1891. 11 Aston Street, Tipton
Ambrose Stevens, head, 55, Coal miner, Brielry Hill
Annie M, wife, 54, Dudley
Rosa, daur, 10,
Matilda, daur, 13,
Ambrose, son, 16, Coal Miner
Honor Turner, Visitor, M, 70, Old Hill
All others born Tipton

Possible Marriage of Sister?
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1857
STEPHENS Ambrose TURNER Maria Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/2/393

1851. La?ey? Hill, Dudley
Joseph Turner, head, 34, Miner
Honor, wife, 34, nailer
Samuel, son, 13, Miner
Maria, daur, 11, Nailer
Margaret, daur, 9, (Possibly meant to be Mary?)
Joseph, son, 5,
Thomas, son, 3,
Joseph, father, 77, Miner
Hannah, mother, 77, nailer
All born Dudley

(theres a Thomas Woodall and family living next door)

1861. North Aston Street, Tipton
Joseph Turner, head, 40, Coal Miner, Tipton
Honor, wife, 45,
Joseph, son, 15, Coal miner
Thomas, son, 14, Coal Miner,
John, son, 9,
All others born Corn Hill

1871??

1881. Ct 1 2 Walker? Street, Tipton
Jos Turner, head, 68, Coal Miner, Staffs
Hannah, wife, 65, Corny? hill

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 3:00 pm
by rockyfowler
30 Nov 1857 St Giles Rowley Regis
Ambrose STEPHENS 18 B Miner Old Hill Father Thomas Stephens Miner
Maria TURNER 18 S Old Hill Father Joseph Turner Miner
After Banns the Marks Of both
Wit; MosesDanks X Hannah Nock X

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 7:57 pm
by mallosa
Thanks both!

So are we saying it's o'k to add in the notes that the fathers name of Taylor is an error and should be Turner?

Marriage 10th Aug 1879 Parish Church of Dudley
John Bills 46 Widower Miner Dudley William Bills (dead) Miner
Mary Williams 48 Widow Dudley Joseph Taylor Miner
after Banns
Both made their mark
Wit: Samuel Fulford/ Hannah Fulford (both made their mark)

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 8:37 pm
by Northern Lass
mallosa wrote:Thanks both!

So are we saying it's o'k to add in the notes that the fathers name of Taylor is an error and should be Turner?

Marriage 10th Aug 1879 Parish Church of Dudley
John Bills 46 Widower Miner Dudley William Bills (dead) Miner
Mary Williams 48 Widow Dudley Joseph Taylor Miner
after Banns
Both made their mark
Wit: Samuel Fulford/ Hannah Fulford (both made their mark)


If you think that and you feel you can qualify it then add it :wink:

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Wed Apr 27, 2011 10:11 pm
by mallosa
Okey dokey Jan, I'll sort it tomorrow :wink:

Re: John Williams - help please

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 8:42 pm
by mallosa
mallosa wrote:The plot thickens....

1901: 68 Waggon Street, Rowley Regis
Honor Turner 84 Head Wid Sweet Shop Keeper/Baker Old Hill, Staffs
Mary Bills 60 Dau Wid Old Hill, Staffs

1841: Cawney? Hill, Dudley, Worc
Joseph Turner 25 Coal Miner
Honor Turner 24
Samuel Turner 4
Ann Turner 2
Mary Turner 4 MO
Ann Smith 14
John Smith 9
Edward Smith 7
Jeremiah Woodall 70
(all born in county)


1851: Cawney Hill, Dudley, Staffs?
Joseph Turner 34 Head Miner
Honor Turner 34 Wife Nailer
Samuel Turner 13 Son Miner
Maria Turner 11 Dau Nailer
Margeret Turner 9 Dau Home
Joseph Turner 5 Son
Thomas Turner 3 Son
Joseph Turner 77 Father Miner
Hannah C Turner 77 Mother Nailer

(all born Dudley, Worc)

1861: Aston North Street, Tipton, Staffs
Joseph Turner 40 Head Tipton
Honor Turner 45 Wife Com Hill, Staffs
Joseph Turner 15 Son Coal Miner Com Hill, Staffs
Thomas Turner 14 Son Coal MinerCom Hill, Staffs
John Turner 19 Son Com Hill, Staffs

Re: John Williams - help please---------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:00 pm
by mallosa
Marriage 9th April 1860 Dudley Parish Church
John Williams Full Bach Miner Dudley Thomas Williams Miner
Mary Turner Minor Spin Dudley Joseph Turner Miner
after Banns
John (signed) Mary (made her mark)
Wit: Ann Maria Stevens / John Dexter (both made their mark)


1871: Wagon Street, Rowley Regis, Staffs
John Williams 44 Head Coal Miner
Mary Williams 21 (31 on image) Wife
Hannah Williams 6 Dau
Samuel Williams 4 Son
(all born Rowley Regis)

Re: John Williams - help please---------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Thu Apr 28, 2011 10:18 pm
by mallosa
Can someone figure out whats going on with Mary's age please, i'm lost - here

Re: John Williams - help please---------Mally adding to BCC

Posted: Fri Apr 29, 2011 12:04 am
by mallosa
added most of the census info, so can be archived now please