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Blanche Emma Adams 1877 sister to Alma Fanny Adams here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ams-Family

I think she married Herbert Roper
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1899
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROPER Herbert E ADAMS Blanche E Cradley, St Peter Dudley Register Office 013/002/326

Herbert Roper is the grandson of Emmanuel Roper here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections

1841 Colley Gate Cradley
William Roper 40 Farmer
Ann Roper 40
Samuel Roper 17
Ellenor Roper 12
Emanuel Roper 9
Emala Roper 4
Nathaniel Roper 2
All Born in County

1851 Windmill Hill Cradley
William Roper Head 54 Farmer and Publican
Ellen Roper Wife 55
Samuel Roper Son 27
Ellen R Attwood Daur 23
Emanuel Roper Son 19 Farmers Son
Emily Roper Daur 13 Farmers Daur
Nathaniel Roper Son 12 Farmers Son
John Fleetwood Servant 20 Farmers Servant Born Rowley
Others born Cradley

1861 Turnpike Road Cradley
Emanuel Roper Head 23 Coal Lab
Elizabeth Roper Wife 37
Benjamin Roper Son 7 Scholar
Caleb Roper Son 5 Scholar
Ellen Roper Daur 2 Scholar
All born Cradley

1871 Windmill Hill Cradley
Emanuel Roper Head 38 Labourer and Grocer Born Cradley
Betsey Roper Wife 43 Born Netherton
Benjn Roper Son 17 Labourer Born Cradley
Caleb Roper Son 15 Labourer Born Cradley
Ellen Roper Daur 12 Scholar Born Cradley
Albert Roper Son 9 Scholar Born Cradley

1881 Windmill Hill
Emmanuel Roper Head 48 Licensed Victualler Born Cradley
Betsy Roper Wife 50 Born Dudley
Albert Roper Son 19 Farm Labourer Born Cradley
Next Door
Caleb Roper Head 25 Farm Labourer Born Cradley
Henrietta Roper Wife Ag Lab Born Cradley Heath
Arthur B Roper Son 7 Scholar Born Cradley
Herbert E Roper Son 4 Acholar Born Cradley
Clara E Roper Daur 1 Born Crdaley
Rosabella Roper Daur 1 Mth Born Cradley
Next door
Benjamin Roper with Louisa and Family

Question Did William Roper marry twice first to Ann then to Ellen

Marriage for Emmanuel
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1852
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROPER Emanuel HAMPTON Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/012/53

Marriage for Caleb
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1874
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROPER Caleb THOMAS Henrietta Dudley, St Andrew Dudley Register Office 205/005/485

Question Did William Roper marry twice first to Ann then to Ellen

The Vicars notebook
1857
105
Stourbridge Road
William, Publican, no church
Ann
Emily, no church, has Caroline, porn, out of wedlock (W Attwood, porn)

99 = Same road - Emmanuel & Elizabeth
100 = next door - Samuel & Abigail


1863
123
Birmingham Road, North side
William, Publican, no church
Ann, no church
Grandson, John Attwood, 17, home, new connexion school
Granddaughter, Caroline Roper, 10, new connexion school, daug of E.S.

other Ropers living nearby
117 = Same road - Nathanael & Hannah
124 = Next door - Samuel & Abigail
160 = Birmingham Road, South side - Emmanuel & Elizabeth

Nathaniel Roper connects to me here:-

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Linell.

FarSide wrote: The Vicars notebook
1857
105
Stourbridge Road
William, Publican, no church
Ann
Emily, no church, has Caroline, porn, out of wedlock (W Attwood, porn)

Anyone tell me what "porn" means in this context ? or is it a mistype for born?

1871 Windmill Hill Cradley
Emanuel Roper Head 38 Labourer and Grocer Born Cradley
Betsey Roper Wife 43 Born Netherton
Benjn Roper Son 17 Labourer Born Cradley
Caleb Roper Son 15 Labourer Born Cradley
Ellen Roper Daur 12 Scholar Born Cradley
Albert Roper Son 9 Scholar Born Cradley

He does appear to marry again..
Living 3 doors from Emanuel
William Roper 74 - Retired farmer
Mary Roper 57 - wife - deaf long time

poss
Deaths Jun 1874
Roper William 77 Stourbridge 6c 83

Maths girl wrote:

FarSide wrote: The Vicars notebook
1857
105
Stourbridge Road
William, Publican, no church
Ann
Emily, no church, has Caroline, porn, out of wedlock (W Attwood, porn)

Anyone tell me what "porn" means in this context ? or is it a mistype for born?

No..
The Vicar used greek symbols eg voθ = out of wedlock
ΤÏ"žopv = porn - Vicar used this to describe unmarried couples living together

So this is Ellen Roper
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

Is this Abigail Samuels wife
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... all-Family

Marriages Dec 1845
BASTAFIELD Caleb Bromsgrove 18 307
PARSONS Mary Seabright Bromsgrove 18 307
PUSOLE Joseph Bromsgrove 18 307
ROPER Samuel Bromsgrove 18 307
SMITH Jane Anne Bromsgrove 18 307
TIBBETTS Mary Ann Bromsgrove 18 307
TIMINGS Richard Bromsgrove 18 307
Winnall Abigail Bromsgrove 18 307

Abigail Winnell Married Samuel Roper Clent 5.10.1845. She was the daughter of John Winnell and Eliza Heathcock. In 1851 Sameul and Abigail are living in Stourbridge Road Cradley - Samuel Roper HD M 26 Coal Lab born Cradley - Abigail Wife 26 born Cradley.

Linell.

26 Sept 1852 St Thomas Dudley
Emmanuel Roper M B Farmer Dudley William Roper Farmer
Elizabeth Hampton F W Dudley James Raybould Nailer
Witness Emily Roper, Alexander Attwood

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1850
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
RAYBOULD Elizabeth HAMPTON Arthur Oldswinford, St Mary Dudley Register Office 003/004/38

Is this Elizabeth ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... uld-Family

Added William here and connected up children
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =272877005

Just waiting for marriage lookups

kdw wrote:Added William here and connected up children
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =272877005

Just waiting for marriage lookups

sent to you

Thanks for the lookups

25 Dec 1850 St Mary Oldwsinford
Arthur Hampton X 22 Bachelor Miner Stourbridge Benjamin Hampton Nailer
Elizabeth Raybould X 20 Spinster Stourbridge James Raybould Water Man
Wit: Joseph Dunn X Eliza Hampton X

20 Sep 1874 St Andrew Dudley
Caleb ROPER M B Banksman Netherton Father Emanuel Roper Publican
Henrietta THOMAS F S Netherton Father Edwin Thomas Shoe Maker
Wit; Benjamin Roper Amelia Hodgetts

29 April 1899 St Peter Cradley
Hebert Edwin Roper 22 B Engineer Colley Gate Caleb Roper Banksman
Blanche Emma Adams 21 S Tailoress Colley Gate John Adams Stocktaker
After Banns Both Signed
Wit: Arthur Adams Clara Ellen Roper

20 Sept 1857 St Thomas Dudley
Richard Stevens X Full Bachelor Miner Dudley Richard Stevens Miner
Emily Roper X Full Spinster Dudley William Roper Farmer
Wit: Edward Stevens X Prudence Lewis X

All added and joined up

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