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5 Feb 1877 St Giles Rowley Regis
Samuel ROPER 22 B Chain Maker Old Hill Father Samuel Roper Nailer
Ann SMITH 18 S Blackheath Father Solomon Smith Labourer
After Banns The Marks of Both
Wit; James Smith X Sarah Ann Smith X

1871 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 42 Nail Maker
Elizabeth Roper Wife 37
Samuel Roper Son 16 Chain Maker
Mary A Roper Daur 12 Chain Maker
Sarah A Roper Daur 6 Scholar
All Born Rowley Regis

Is this Mary the daughter of Samuel
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... per-Family

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1877
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
ROPER Mary A ALLPORT Harry Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/5/209
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... ort-Family

Harrys mother is Sarah Payne is she the sister of Mary Payne who married Solomon Smith here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/fa ... yne-Family

Is there a marriage for Samuel Roper and Elizabeth

and is this a mrriage for Sarah Samuels sister
West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1890
Surname Forename(s) Surname Forename(s) Church / Register Office Registers At Reference
WILLETTS Samuel ROPER Sarah A Rowley Regis, St Giles Sandwell Register Office 18/7/446

5 Mar1877 St Giles Rowley Regis
Harry ALLPORT 17 B Miner Old Hill Father Isachar Allport Miner
Mary Ann ROPER 18 S Wrights Lane Father Samuel Roper Nailer
After Banns The Marks Of Both
Wit; Samuel Roper X Ann Roper X

West Midlands Marriage indexes for the years: 1851.
ROPIER Samuel. TROWMAN Elizabeth. Dudley, St Thomas. Dudley Register Office. 204/011/313.

ROPIER Samuel TROWMAN Elizabeth Dudley, St Thomas Dudley Register Office 204/011/313 1851
Details in a mo

Thanks rocky

29 Dec 1851 St Thomas dudley
Samuel ROPIER O B Blacksmith Dudley Father Samuel Ropier Blacksmith
Elizabeth TROWMAN M S Dudley Father James Trowman Broker
After Banns Samuel signed The Mark of Elizabeth
Wit; Samuel Tibbetts Thomas Parkes

7 Dec 1890 St Giles Rowley Regis
Samuel WILLETTS 23 B Boat Loader Whiteheath Joseph Willetts Miner
Sarah Ann ROPER 26 S Blackheath Father Samuel Roper Blacksmith
After Banns The Mark Of Samuel Sarah Signed
Wit; Benjamin Tromans Belinda Tromans

Added so far to BCC
Marriage for Mary Ann Roper and Harry Allport here
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =358537606

Marriage for Samuel Roper and Ann Smith
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =177137132

Heres my problem on Samuels marriage to Elizabeth he is a Blacksmith with father blacksmith
on daughter Sarahs marriage he is also a blacksmith is this the same Samuel Roper ?

Any census for Samuel please

Not found a blacksmith

1841 Old Hill Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper 40 Nailer
Sarah Roper 40
Ann Roper 18
Mary Roper 16
Samuel Roper 14
Phebey Roper 12
Meriah Roper 9
Jonas Roper 7
Thomas Roper 5
Margret Roper 3
All Born in County

1851 Old Hill Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 52 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Roper Wife 52 Nail Maker Born Dudley
Samuel Roper Son 24 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Phebe Roper Daur 22 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Maria Roper Daur 20 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Joniah Roper Son 17 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Thomas Roper Son 15 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Margaret Roper Daur 13 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
John Roper Son 8 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

1861 Bowling Green Dudley
Samuel Raper Head 33 Nail Maker Born Rowley
Elizabeth Raper Wife 26 Chain Maker Born Dudley
Samuel Raper Son 6 Born Dudley
James Raper Son 4 Born Dudley
Mary Ann Raper Daur 2 Born Dudley

1871 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 42 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Roper Wife 37 Born Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Son 16 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Mary A Roper Daur 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Sarah A Roper Daur 6 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

Possible 1881 & 1891

1881 46 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head Mar 46 Nail Forger Born Rowley Regis
1891 34 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis
Joseph Hadley Head 42 Coal Miner Born Rowley Regis
Sarah A Hadley Wife 42 Retired Nailer Born Rowley Regis
Joseph W Hadley Son 8 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Annie Hadley Daur 5 Scholar Born Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head M 59 Nailer Born Rowley Regis

1881 Waterfall Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 26 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Ann Roper Wife 22 Nail Forger Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Jane Roper Daur 10 Mths Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Roper Boarder W 47 Chain Maker Born Dudley
Sarah Ann Roper Boarder 16 Chain Maker Born Dudley
If Elizabeth is Samuels Mother and the other Samuel is her husband why is she a widow ?

1891 New Brighton Cleckheaton Yorkshire
Samuel Roper Head 37 Chain Maker Born Old Hill
Ann Roper Wife 31 Born Blackheath
Sarah A Roper Daur 13 Worsted Spinner Born Old HIll
Clara J Roper Daur 7 Scholar Born Blackheath
James Roper Son 5 Scholar Born Blackheath
Thomas W Roper Son 2 Born Blackheath
Arthur Roper Son 4Mths Born Scholes Yorkshire
Mary A Hackett Visitor M 33 Born Blackheath
Hannah Hackett Visitor 2 Born Hauseland Staffordshire

1901 Terrace Street Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 47 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Annie Roper Wife 42 Born Rowley Regis
Clara Roper Daur 17 Screwer Rivet Shop Born Rowley Regis
James Roper Son 15 Stoker Heater in Tube Works Born Rowley Regis
Thos Roper Son 12 Born Rowley Regis
Arthur Roper Son 10 Born Scholes Yorkshire
John H Roper Son 8 Born Cleckheath
Samuel Roper Son 7 Born Cleckheath
Fred Roper Son 4 Born Cleckheath
Lizzie Roper Daur 9 Months Born Rowley Regis

1891 For Elizabeth
Terrace Street Rowley Regis
Samuel Willetts Head 23 Chain Maker Born Oldbury
Sarah Ann Willetts Wife 26 Chain Maker Born Dudley
Elizabeth Roper Mother in Law Wid 57 Born Dudley

1901 Terrace Street Rowley Regis
Samuel Willetts Head 33 Under Ground Colliery Hewer Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Ann Willetts Wief 37 Chain Maker Born Dudley
Annie Willetts Daur 8 Born Rowley Regis
Joseph Willetts Son 5 Born Rowley Regis
Elizabeth Roper M in Law 67 Born Dudley

Possible Elizabeth Trowman pre marriage

1841 New Town Dudley
James Trowman 25 Chain Maker
Sarah Trowman 25 Trace Maker Not Born in County
Mary Trowman 10 Trace Maker
Elizabeth Trowman 7
Joseph Trowman 4
James Trowman 2
Others born in County

1851 New Town Dudley
James Trowmans Head 37 Chain Maker Born New Town
Sarah Trowmans Wife 33 Born Rowley
Elizabeth Trowmans Daur 17 Chain Maker Born New Town
Joseph Trowmans Son 13 Chain Maker Born New Town
James Trowmans Son 11 Chain Maker Born New Town
Sarah Ann Trowmans Daur 4 Chain Maker Born New Town
John Trowmans Son 3 MO Born New Town
Hannah Caddick Daur in Law 12 Chain Maker Born Rowley

Elizabeths parents
1861 New Town Dudley
James Tromans Head 47 Furniture Broker Born Dudley
Sarah Tromans Wife 41 Furniture Brokers Wife Born Rowley
Sarah Ann Tromans Daur 14 Scholar Born Dudley
John Tromans Son 10 Scholar Born Dudley
Mary Ann Tromans Daur 9 Scholar Born Dudley
Rebecca Tromans Daur 6 Scholar Born Dudley
Margaret Tromans Daur 3
Scholar Born Dudley

1871 2 New Town Dudley
James Tromons Head 57 Broker Born New Town Dudley
Sarah Tromons Wife 55 Born Rowley
Mary Ann Tromons Daur 19 Born New Town
Rabbai Tromons Daur 14 Dress Maker Born New Town
Margaret Tromons Daur 13 Scholar Born New Town

1881 New Town Dudley
James Tromans Head 67 Broker Born Dudley
Sarah Tromans Wife 61 Born Rowley
Mary Harriss Daur M 29 Born Dudley
Rachel Perry Serv 16 Domestic Servant Born Dudley

1891 2 New Town Dudley
James Tromans Head 77 Living on own means Born Dudley
Sarah Tromans Wife 71 Born Rowley
Florrie Talbot Serv 14 Domestic Servant Born Rowley
Alice Horton Visitor 15 Born Rowley

Kdw do you need help with this one?

or is it all added and connected?

Added these so far
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =145775905

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... i=38900741

http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =193122319

Census added but need children adding

1841 Old Hill Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper 40 Nailer
Sarah Roper 40
Ann Roper 18
Mary Roper 16
Samuel Roper 14
Phebey Roper 12
Meriah Roper 9
Jonas Roper 7
Thomas Roper 5
Margret Roper 3
All Born in County

1851 Old Hill Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 52 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Sarah Roper Wife 52 Nail Maker Born Dudley
Samuel Roper Son 24 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Phebe Roper Daur 22 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Maria Roper Daur 20 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis Marries Solomon Adams http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =185386952
Joniah Roper Son 17 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis Marries Sabra Atkins http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =988738481
Thomas Roper Son 15 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis
Margaret Roper Daur 13 Nail Maker Born Rowley Regis Marries Jabez Parsonshttp://bcconnections.tribalpages ... =739557457
John Roper Son 8 Scholar Born Rowley Regis

1861 Garratts Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head 60 Nail Maker Born Rowley
Sarah Roper Wife 59 Nail Maker Born Rowley
Jonah Roper Son 26 Nail Maker Born Rowley
Thomas Roper Son 24 Chain Maker Born Rowley
John Roper Son 21Nail Maker Born Rowley

1871 Wrights Lane Rowley Regis
Samuel Roper Head Widr 74 Brewer Born Rowley Regis
Jonah Roper Son 36 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis
Thomas Roper Son 28 Chain Maker Born Rowley Regis

IGI Extracted
2. ANN ROPIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 31 DEC 1822 Particular Baptist, Cradley, Worcester, England

3. MARGARET ROPER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Birth: 12 AUG 1838

4. MARGARET ROPER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 03 FEB 1839 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

5. MARY ANN ROPIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 11 JUL 1824 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

6. MARIA ROPER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 24 MAY 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

7. JONAH ROPER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 24 MAY 1835 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

8. THOMAS ROPER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 05 MAR 1837 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

9. PHEBE ROPIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Female Christening: 27 SEP 1829 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

10. SAML. ROPIER - International Genealogical Index
Gender: Male Christening: 15 APR 1827 Saint Thomas, Dudley, Worcester, England

Is this Margaret ?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... =862873515

All added just waiting for Marriage lookups

Northern Lass wrote:9 June 1856 St Mark, Pensnett
Richard Roberts, 22, B, Miner, Pensnett, William Roberts, Miner
Maria Roper, 22, S, Pensnett, Samuel Roper, Labourer
Wit: Samuel Harper, Elizabeth Carter

so this maria Roper must be a different one?
http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/tr ... onnections